I should have purchased a Pilot

[swissfrank]

Originally Posted by FAT_X5

The work that I have done on my 4.4i 2001 has overwealmed me. I should have purchased a newer year, or a different car all together. I wanted to post this here to help someone make the right choice. These X5's should be called JEEP (Just Empty Every Pocket)

I may be able to help you out,, How much will you sell your X5 to me for?

[NOVAX5]

FAT_X5 was right about "right decision". With the same amount of money, he should have bought the newer, less mileage, less trouble Pilot. He didn't say same year. For those of us brag about our X, wait until the problems occur. We've been through this and we know why. For the same amount of money which he used to purchased the 4.4i 2001, he could have got himself a better vehicle, the Pilot that is. He regretted his decision, he didn't offend the BMW world so please be nice and be real. We all know X5 in early years is no where near as reliable as the Pilot (again same price here). FAT_X5, i also think you have had enough with the X, sell it and move on.

[dsm2925]

Originally Posted by bgsquad

You must be kidding me... comparing potatoes to bananas? get real... a BMW is a BMW, while a honda is just... a honda! come on!

ok...

look at this way..

paying big buck for bmw when new you should expect so many little things to break as a pilot about half the price breaks alot less.....

bmw is top of the line so shouldnt you expect durable parts?

while pilot you pay half and has more durable parts..


its a big shame on bmw on the e53's...

[dsm2925]

Originally Posted by bgsquad

You must be kidding me... comparing potatoes to bananas? get real... a BMW is a BMW, while a honda is just... a honda! come on!

why do you think honda resale is so good.......
they are well made/


and why you think acura alway beats bmw in suv comparisions?


i own 2 x5's and the truth is the truth...

[dsm2925]

Originally Posted by Icer006

Why do people own 8 year old cars (especially BMWs), can't work on them themselves, can't afford to maintain them, whine about repair costs and ultimately bashes the car as if another brand does NOT ever break?

Yes your right all old cars break but in the x5 you dont expect it to break so much because it is suppose to be so well built when you pay 50-60k new.

thats why when they run out of warranty everyone sales them-

for example if you have a 2001 x5 4.4 and ur tranny goes bad it will cost you more then a 3rd of what its worth- ( i dont think its worth owning a suv with such heavy repair cost at that point)

[ZsX5o3]

damn do you really need to make 3 consecutive posts. we get the point.

BMW is expensive.

NEXT

[bgsquad]

Originally Posted by dsm2925

ok...

look at this way..

paying big buck for bmw when new you should expect so many little things to break as a pilot about half the price breaks alot less.....

bmw is top of the line so shouldnt you expect durable parts?

while pilot you pay half and has more durable parts..


its a big shame on bmw on the e53's...

You know, when i was a kid, i had that bicycle... boy was it durable!! just lube the chain and go... but guess what? it was a BICYCLE!!! with wind combing your head and rolling on two wheels...

What i want to say, is that BMW offer a quality ride and that special feeling that honda (and other japanese, french, american, etc...) cannot offer.

You want a machine to carry you around with little running costs on the expense of quality and pleasure, fine, then go for kia, it's better than X5 in that sense, and better than aston or maseratti...

X5 targets those who are looking for a certain feeling, handling, power, quality, while driving a big SUV. Those who buy it know very well that it may cost them a lot of $$ but they accept to pay for what they get in return (and it may not cost them a penny, like my case with my 01 3.0, running costs just like any car: oils, pads, filters so far)

So there is no RIGHT choice, there is the choice that satisfies your need. that's why is said bananas and potatoes. let say bananas are X5, Cayenne, ML, Lexus... Potatos go to pilot, pathfinder, whatever...

[supersteve]

Originally Posted by swissfrank

I may be able to help you out,, How much will you sell your X5 to me for?

Well said Frank. My 01 4.4 (145k miles) and my 06 4.4 (38K miles) drive almost the same. The biggest difference is the tranny. 5 speed vs. 6 speed. Honestly the five speed drives better around town. The 6 speed is a little better on gas mileage.

If you buy a car, of any make or model, that is 8 years old, you will have costs to keep it running. If you think you can buy a Honda that is 8 years old and it will take any less work to keep it going than go right ahead. I'll bet you'll keep the X5 longer than any Honda.

A little story. Back when Chevrolet was a new car company they challenged Rolls Royce to a race. They were trying to flex their muscles. Rolls Royce accepted with one condition. They would both use cars that were 10 years old. Their point being the quality of the Rolls Royce would outlast anything that Chevy could produce. Chevy's didn't (still don't) last ten years.

My point being, for the same price you could have purchased a newer Honda; But, why would you? Your not getting the same quality as an 8 year old BMW.

[motordavid]

Originally Posted by dsm2925

Yes your right all old cars break but in the x5 you dont expect it to break so much because it is suppose to be so well built when you pay 50-60k new.

thats why when they run out of warranty everyone sales them-

for example if you have a 2001 x5 4.4 and ur tranny goes bad it will cost you more then a 3rd of what its worth- ( i dont think its worth owning a suv with such heavy repair cost at that point)

Written like a man that wants to sell someone a new one...

[TwinsPoppa]

Okay, now you just put a fine line between reliability and quality/longevity. IMHO ... Most people will associate quality with reliability and what some here are suggesting is that is not necessarily the case.

This is my first BMW and all I can say for now is that I love the X! If it turns out that I start spending too much money or taking too much of my time for maintenance/repairs vs. the enjoyment of the car, then I will sel it - just like any other car.

Originally Posted by supersteve

Well said Frank. My 01 4.4 (145k miles) and my 06 4.4 (38K miles) drive almost the same. The biggest difference is the tranny. 5 speed vs. 6 speed. Honestly the five speed drives better around town. The 6 speed is a little better on gas mileage.

If you buy a car, of any make or model, that is 8 years old, you will have costs to keep it running. If you think you can buy a Honda that is 8 years old and it will take any less work to keep it going than go right ahead. I'll bet you'll keep the X5 longer than any Honda.

A little story. Back when Chevrolet was a new car company they challenged Rolls Royce to a race. They were trying to flex their muscles. Rolls Royce accepted with one condition. They would both use cars that were 10 years old. Their point being the quality of the Rolls Royce would outlast anything that Chevy could produce. Chevy's didn't (still don't) last ten years.

My point being, for the same price you could have purchased a newer Honda; But, why would you? Your not getting the same quality as an 8 year old BMW.