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Old 03-16-2009, 04:10 PM
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x5pdx, who is your INDY? (PM me if you want)

koister2001, I also have Axxis Deluxe plus on my coupe. I liked them at first since they have very little dust but I miss that initial "bite" that the OEM pads have, I also noticed that the pedal effort is increased greatly (especially under hard braking) and they don't have that same feedback at the very limit when ABS starts to kick in. Did you notice this? I'm considering going back to OEM pads actually...
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:10 AM
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Is it front pads and rotors or all around pads and rotors? My dealer quoted me $1600 for all around pads and rotors. Needless to say I did it myself for $400 in parts.
I am getting it checked out at indy tomorrow. My best guess is that it's the fronts b/c I only have 38k miles on my car. It's an 04 4.4i sport, but it's already out of warranty. I will let you guys know what's up tomorrow night.

Thanks to everyone. Very helpful info from all posts.
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:51 AM
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I am getting it checked out at indy tomorrow. My best guess is that it's the fronts b/c I only have 38k miles on my car. It's an 04 4.4i sport, but it's already out of warranty. I will let you guys know what's up tomorrow night.

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Make sure they put new rotors on. The rotors on the x5 wear very quickly and just because the rotors may be the allowable thickness or able to be resurfaced does not mean they will last as long as the new brake pads.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:55 AM
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Make sure they put new rotors on. The rotors on the x5 wear very quickly and just because the rotors may be the allowable thickness or able to be resurfaced does not mean they will last as long as the new brake pads.
OK, we DISagree. Rotors are rotors, and pads are pads. The guy just got quoted for $600 just for pads and sensors, and he's looking for a cheaper alternative. And now you're saying he should also get new rotors, which will bring the job easily over $1,000. Unless the dealer/INDY specifically says the rotors need replacing, I don't see why he should spend all that extra moolah. Sure, it would be nice to get everything NEW every time you bring your X in: new pads, new rotors, new rims, new tires. But you can't justify that expense if the rotors are still within factory specs, which they should be at 37K miles.
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:57 PM
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OK, we DISagree. Rotors are rotors, and pads are pads. The guy just got quoted for $600 just for pads and sensors, and he's looking for a cheaper alternative. And now you're saying he should also get new rotors, which will bring the job easily over $1,000. Unless the dealer/INDY specifically says the rotors need replacing, I don't see why he should spend all that extra moolah. Sure, it would be nice to get everything NEW every time you bring your X in: new pads, new rotors, new rims, new tires. But you can't justify that expense if the rotors are still within factory specs, which they should be at 37K miles.
I agree to disagree. To each his own.
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The only way to tell if they are within factory specs is to measure their thickness and runout. Period. Everything else is guesswork. Change them when needed, not just because, and certainly don't use them if they are below spec or out of true.

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OK, we DISagree. Rotors are rotors, and pads are pads. The guy just got quoted for $600 just for pads and sensors, and he's looking for a cheaper alternative. And now you're saying he should also get new rotors, which will bring the job easily over $1,000. Unless the dealer/INDY specifically says the rotors need replacing, I don't see why he should spend all that extra moolah. Sure, it would be nice to get everything NEW every time you bring your X in: new pads, new rotors, new rims, new tires. But you can't justify that expense if the rotors are still within factory specs, which they should be at 37K miles.
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Good info on brake choices and pads here. Thanks to all who contributed. Now I know a bit more that I did before reading this thread.

I have been riding motorcycles and depending on the need, have changed brake pads to aftermarket for better bite/performance on those that needed it. But if the braking performance is acceptable in the stock form, I have always stayed with the stock pads/rotors.

Yes, the brake dust is a pain in the ass to clean up, but the fact that I know the pads and rotors are designed for each other and for almost all of the conditions that I will encounter as a regular driver... I live with the clean up effort and frankly, the 'dirty' wheels (while they are dirty between my frequent washes) don't bother me since I know it is a sign of brakes working the way they were designed to do.
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Ceramics probably wear the rotors less. I know my rotor housings on my 13b-rew looked brand new on teardown when using ceramic apex seals instead of steel.
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