Intermediate Levers issue on 06?

[hafrse]

Ok, thanks for the information, it sounds like a problem in the Intermediate Levers but can be other problems also.
Regarding the warranty, it is a fault and should be fixed whatever the cause is even if a new engine needs to be fitted, it is up to the certified workshop to deal with issue until it is fixed and the warranty should cover all the costs. I would say like this, if the workshop says that first we need to check the intermediate levers before doing more things then it should be included in the repair plan of the car even if the levers were good.
Cheers

[4MoJoe]

Engine was torn down today and parts showed considerable wear. Waiting for my extended warranty company to send out adjuster to view them and approve the repair. Also found out that my sunroof needs repair to the plastic 'cassette' to the tune of $1,400 so that needs to be inspected as well. While I'm happy that the $3,600 I spent on extended warranty was money well spent, the repairs are starting to be unending on my X5. Ready to dump it after this...

[hafrse]

Originally Posted by 4MoJoe

Engine was torn down today and parts showed considerable wear. Waiting for my extended warranty company to send out adjuster to view them and approve the repair. Also found out that my sunroof needs repair to the plastic 'cassette' to the tune of $1,400 so that needs to be inspected as well. While I'm happy that the $3,600 I spent on extended warranty was money well spent, the repairs are starting to be unending on my X5. Ready to dump it after this...

Hi, it seems that this is the worse engine BMW has ever build! I have heard from a local BMW tech that this issue is in most N62 engines and can pop up when the wear is reached to some level. Changing levers and shafts for 40K will help for a while but not permenent since new shafts and levers will also wear... It looks like a construction fault rathar than normal wear.

[4MoJoe]

Update: My extended warranty approved the repair and parts have been ordered. Hoping to get my car this Friday if all is well. They also approved repair of my sunroof so out of $6,400 for both repairs I'm on the hook for $476...my deductible plus the difference of how much my MBI policy would cover on labor versus the dealer's rate. I hope this fixes it...

[CTSportX5]

When I had mine done the SA advised that is will NOT cause more damage if left unfixed. Plus considering you have gone 35K miles with the issue on and off I tend to believe this.

[bulkwarrior]

Thanks for the info. I guess the best way to do this is when it's winter time I'll bring the car to local dealer and had them give me a full diagnosis. If it's indeed intermediate lever, and if it doesn't hurt the engine(as I understand, when it's too cold the valve will kinda stuck, and the lever that's pulling the valve will not fully open the valve. this caused misfiring and roughness in starting, as well as the SES light), I'll just have to ignore this from now on. If it's something that progresses and cause more damage, I'll either repair the car or sell it/trade it in when it's not too cold.

[Omerta]

What is the root cause of this issue? Oil condition or mechanical failure after wear?

[4MoJoe]

I think if I remember correctly it was some type of known issue because typically it happened earlier on and people got it covered under warranty. Mine got covered by the aftermarket warranty-thankfully as $5,000 would not be fun.

[X5 Meister]

I believe I posted the tolerances. Ask them for the printout of what they measured and do the comparison yourself.

Originally Posted by elmo

Any UK 4.4/4.6/4.8 owners out there? I am disappointed that nobody has replied to nor referred to my specific postings in this thread. Last time it went in they said it was an ignition coil problem and they replaced four of them, which made no difference. My BMW dealer kept my car overnight and - so they say - did the tests for the intermediate lever/s. They said ONE cyl ( no. 6)was misfiring after cold start up ( my own experience that one cyl misfire on a V8 is hard to detect - when I start up from the cold it idles on about 4 cylinders!). He said that the intermediate lever concerned was "within BMW's tolerance". Whether they checked them all, I do not know. I then remarked that what BMW UK were essentially saying was that on a £55k car (with 34k miles on the clock), it was acceptable for it to shudder and shake on a few cylinders when starting from cold. They said that was basically BMW's stance. He said that even if it had been only a few weeks old it would not have been covered by BMW's new car warranty. As BMW said that the lever was within their tolerance range, my aftermarket warranty company (Warranty Direct) obviously declined to cover it. Has anyone else in the UK had the intermediate levers problem? We need to get together to lobby BMW UK. BMW USA seem to have a better grip on the situation over there.

[mikem0re]

I was having the exact same symtoms with my 4.4 2006, and I had the levels replaced but didn't fix my issue, the mass air flow sensor was the problem in my case.

Originally Posted by elmo

Any UK 4.4/4.6/4.8 owners out there? I am disappointed that nobody has replied to nor referred to my specific postings in this thread. Last time it went in they said it was an ignition coil problem and they replaced four of them, which made no difference. My BMW dealer kept my car overnight and - so they say - did the tests for the intermediate lever/s. They said ONE cyl ( no. 6)was misfiring after cold start up ( my own experience that one cyl misfire on a V8 is hard to detect - when I start up from the cold it idles on about 4 cylinders!). He said that the intermediate lever concerned was "within BMW's tolerance". Whether they checked them all, I do not know. I then remarked that what BMW UK were essentially saying was that on a £55k car (with 34k miles on the clock), it was acceptable for it to shudder and shake on a few cylinders when starting from cold. They said that was basically BMW's stance. He said that even if it had been only a few weeks old it would not have been covered by BMW's new car warranty. As BMW said that the lever was within their tolerance range, my aftermarket warranty company (Warranty Direct) obviously declined to cover it. Has anyone else in the UK had the intermediate levers problem? We need to get together to lobby BMW UK. BMW USA seem to have a better grip on the situation over there.