65-75 mph brake shudder/shimmy issue

[floydturbo]

I have searched and read all the posts about this issue. I plan to solve this dilema and post the solution.

Issue: When driving about 65-75 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel shudders and vibrates when I apply the brakes.

Model: 2005 4.4 sport with stock 18" tires. I have 107k with new rotors and pads at 100k.

Attempted solutions:
1. Replaced tension strut lower bushings with BMW ones. This actually helped a bit, maybe 50% less brake vibration, but the issue is still there.
2. Rotated and balanced tires. No effect.
3. Checked all ball joints for any looseness, none.
4. Next, today I am ordering the upper rubber bushing for the wishbone. Although they appeared pretty tight, I did see cracks around the rubber.

I will respond back in a week or two with the results. Stay tuned.

[PMPNX5]

Before you go thru the hassle of changing the bushings try just changing the bolt (#12). I did this a few weeks back as I had the same issue, and it was a bad (almost to the point I felt unsafe) vibration when braking from high speeds. I went to order the bushing(#11) from the stealership and one of the techs (I knew him obviously) told me to try this first as it's a fairly common problem. Just figure for the $6 and change it's worth a shot to try the bolt first. I can't be the only one that this solution works for....lol.

RealOEM.com * BMW E53 X5 3.0i Frnt axle support,wishbone/tension strut
Here's the diagram for the numbers I referenced.

[ArtMan]

Originally Posted by PMPNX5

Before you go thru the hassle of changing the bushings try just changing the bolt (#12). I did this a few weeks back as I had the same issue, and it was a bad (almost to the point I felt unsafe) vibration when braking from high speeds. I went to order the bushing(#11) from the stealership and one of the techs (I knew him obviously) told me to try this first as it's a fairly common problem. Just figure for the $6 and change it's worth a shot to try the bolt first. I can't be the only one that this solution works for....lol.

RealOEM.com * BMW E53 X5 3.0i Frnt axle support,wishbone/tension strut
Here's the diagram for the numbers I referenced.

HAHA thats the same bold that became loose i have no idea how but the dealer instead of checking that replaced my breakes 4 times witch in 1.5 yrs on the basis of warped discs. until i found that bolt so loose that i could turn it with my hands. but i still have the vibrtion slight but its there.....so ihave replaced bushings and arms......

[rayxi]

What did the bad bolt look like? Were the threads stripped? Or could it just be a case of proper torquing when you replaced it with a new one?

[PMPNX5]

Originally Posted by rayxi

What did the bad bolt look like? Were the threads stripped? Or could it just be a case of proper torquing when you replaced it with a new one?

I'll take a pic of it and post up in a later when I get back to my garage. It wasn't extremely worn at all, but because of that wear on the threads it prevented further tightening. Maybe it was improperly torqued last time it was tightened the the nut backed off causing that loose bolt to wear like that, but either way I was pumped I didn't have to spend large notes on getting it fixed and figured I'd throw it out there.

Pics of said bolt to come.

[Weasel]

And one thing to think of with checking ball sockets is that they often don't show the wear/slack when the vehicle is raised off its wheels as the joint is at a different angle with a different direction of pressure on it. I would think from the description that it very well could be in the control arms and since you're at a higher mileage it wouldn't be ab bad idea to just change the whole control arms and throw in the new bolts while you're doing it.

I recently bought these for my truck, cheaper than my cost at the dealer and quality seems to be good so far. No complaints.

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[jcm3]

I had the same issue had the dealer replace the lower tension bushings and 1/2 of the shutter gone. Turned out my less than 1K mile old front rotors were warped. Replaced them and have been shutter free for 2K miles.

[Boston X5 4.4]

Also worth checking the calipers to see if one is sticking ...that was what caused a 55-65 shudder for me.

[flatlander]

Originally Posted by Weasel

And one thing to think of with checking ball sockets is that they often don't show the wear/slack when the vehicle is raised off its wheels as the joint is at a different angle with a different direction of pressure on it. I would think from the description that it very well could be in the control arms and since you're at a higher mileage it wouldn't be ab bad idea to just change the whole control arms and throw in the new bolts while you're doing it.

I recently bought these for my truck, cheaper than my cost at the dealer and quality seems to be good so far. No complaints.

Pelican Parts - Product Information: 31-12-6-760-276-M36

Pelican Parts - Product Information: 31-12-6-760-275-M36

I see that Pelican has suspension parts from a brand called Karlyn that are sometimes less than half the price of the Lemforder parts. Doesanyone have experience with that brand? It's a pretty tempting bargain especially with the cost of the oem and Lemforder parts. I've bought Lemforder parts to update my suspension 3 years ago and now I've got the steering shakes again. I wish those suspension parts lasted longer!

[floydturbo]

I checked both front rotors and they have less than .001" differenced when they are rotated 360 degrees. I have ordered the wishbone strut bushings and will install them next. keep tuned...

I have searched and read all the posts about this issue. I plan to solve this dilema and post the solution.

Issue: When driving about 65-75 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel shudders and vibrates when I apply the brakes.

Model: 2005 4.4 sport with stock 18" tires. I have 107k with new rotors and pads at 100k.

Attempted solutions:
1. Replaced tension strut lower bushings with BMW ones. This actually helped a bit, maybe 50% less brake vibration, but the issue is still there.
2. Rotated and balanced tires. No effect.
3. Checked all ball joints for any looseness, none.
4. Next, today I am ordering the upper rubber bushing for the wishbone. Although they appeared pretty tight, I did see cracks around the rubber.

I will respond back in a week or two with the results. Stay tuned.