F*CK Momentum BMW!!!!!!!

[4.6is Ryder]

Part of your issue is, they know you are out of town. So the question is, how much fight do you have in you? To Bruce's point, they will burn local customers, so you can only imagine what can happen to a long distance purchase.............Phil

[EGZ5]

Originally Posted by 4.6is Ryder

Part of your issue is, they know you are out of town. So the question is, how much fight do you have in you? To Bruce's point, they will burn local customers, so you can only imagine what can happen to a long distance purchase.............Phil

I'm really turned off to BMW right now. I'm a Benz guy and this is my first experience with BMW. Im not sure I'll go back after this. I had my eye n the X5 4.8is for a long time, finally pulled the trigger. I got rid of a Touareg V10 TDI to get into the X5 and what a disappointment.

[4.6is Ryder]

Originally Posted by EGZ5

I'm really turned off to BMW right now. I'm a Benz guy and this is my first experience with BMW. Im not sure I'll go back after this. I had my eye n the X5 4.8is for a long time, finally pulled the trigger. I got rid of a Touareg V10 TDI to get into the X5 and what a disappointment.

Don't give up on BMW, I too have had horrible experiences with Momentum. In fact my 2nd BMW purchase was so jacked up, I had to go over the CA's head to get a deal done. Five cars later and I still don't F*** with them. I use them for service because their service manager is really a good guy. Get this resolved and find yourself another dealership...........Phil

[JCL]

You bought a five year old vehicle that was advertised online, as is, without test driving it, and sight unseen, from a place you had never dealt with before? Did you check out the dealership references, or just put your faith in their BMW sign?

Sounds like they didn't treat you very well, but I am sorry to say, you appear to have painted a target on your back.

[kaptain]

Shouldn't there be a lemon law that applies to this?

Originally Posted by JCL

Sounds like they didn't treat you very well, but I am sorry to say, you appear to have painted a target on your back.

Really? We expect BMW Dealers to be the exact same kind of shysters as the small used car lots?

I know its somewhat true, however I expect the big dealers to aspire to a higher level of quality. That's why you pay the higher prices.

If I were to buy a car at distance from a Dealer I would expect them to represent it perfectly. If they pulled these kinds of scams then they compromise that sales avenue. Clearly they don't care because you can't hurt them from far away.

[EGZ5]

I asked all the right questions, checked the vehicle history and based on all of the info i had i made a decision. Unfortunately, the info I was given by this dealership proved to be grossly inaccurate. Yes, I did put some faith in the fact that it's a BMW dealership and they wouldn't lie to me over and over about their product. I've purchased 6 cars on the internet in the last 5 years and this is the first time I've encountered such dishonest people. And here's the kicker: it's the first time I bought from the actual dealership and not an independent seller. Maybe I do have it backwards. I guess the independent sellers have to care since they don't do the volume these large dealerships do, but that being said why would a large dealership need to screw a customer. The bottom line is that it's bad business. I was flat out lied to initially and they won't even try to correct this. It's sickening. And it's no wonder when you search this dealership it's nothing but nightmare stories and bad reviews. I'm always very thorough in my car searches and this is the one time I was pressed to buy something quick. The money isn't even what bothers me, it's the people at this dealership so willingly lying and ignoring what they've done. I just wouldn't expect this from a high end dealership, regardless of brand. period

[JCL]

Originally Posted by kaptain

Shouldn't there be a lemon law that applies to this?

Yes, on a new vehicle. Not common on a used vehicle. But the issue here is that the vehicle was reportedly sold "as is" which means that all faults are the responsiblity of the purchaser. No guarantee or warranties. It is a buyer-beware situation. That puts the onus squarely on the purchaser to validate the condition of the vehicle they are purchasing.

If it was misrepresented by the seller (and it appears it was) then that is the avenue that the purchaser has to resolve the situation. The sad part is that the OP reported that he has nothing in writing, it was all by telephone. That doesn't remove the obligation of the seller to be truthful, but it does make it very difficult to prove anything.

On the upside, and it is a small upside, there is one CPO 4.8is on the BMWNA web site that has similar miles. It is listed at $36,000. This one sold for $27,000. So, $10k in repairs puts the two vehicles in the same ballpark. The OP would have been better off to buy a CPO vehicle, and do his homework, prior to purchasing, but he appears to have bought it cheaply enough to fund some repairs.

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by JCL

If it was misrepresented by the seller (and it appears it was) then that is the avenue that the purchaser has to resolve the situation. The sad part is that the OP reported that he has nothing in writing, it was all by telephone. That doesn't remove the obligation of the seller to be truthful, but it does make it very difficult to prove anything.

Not having anything in writing? That part is hard to believe.
Even an e-mail that stated the condition of the vehicle would have
been better than nothing....

[motordavid]

Originally Posted by JCL

You bought a five year old vehicle that was advertised online, as is, without test driving it, and sight unseen, from a place you had never dealt with before? Did you check out the dealership references, or just put your faith in their BMW sign?

Sounds like they didn't treat you very well, but I am sorry to say, you appear to have painted a target on your back.

... buying a car, horse, house, land, collectible gun, et al,

sight unseen by someones eyes, is tantamount to an open door.
Sorry that dlr screwed you. Just because it was a BMW dlr, or MB
dlr, or P Car dlr, doesn't mean a thing, imo. You were 'remote', they
moved a 'unit' off the lot. Caveat emptor.

Find a good local dlr, or better yet, find a good local Indie and get some things fixed that makes the sumbitch run.
Then, maybe toss it...
GL, mD