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Old 10-06-2019, 11:46 PM
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So, I pulled the transfer case off today and, without opening it up, everything seems to be okay in it. The female splines on the TC looked to be flattened but idk because the male splines are near perfect and seem to full seat take a look at this picture: https://imgur.com/gallery/H5s0zAa and the transmission output splines here: https://imgur.com/gallery/JqB7kqd

Could I be mistaken about the front half shaft not spinning? Because it wouldnít spin if all four wheels are off the ground? Do the back wheels need to be on the ground for the front shaft to spin (video linked in previous post)?

Here is a video of me turning the TC input shaft...I think itís working alright...?: https://youtu.be/WHgXygOTRzA

I havenít looked at the front case to see if it has teeth because I donít have a socket large enough to get the little spindle out. But is that the next area to investigate?

Does this help to narrow down the faulty part, Phil?

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Old 10-07-2019, 04:25 PM
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Your TC splines look like mine after failure. Your front driveshaft splines aren't quite as worn as mine were, but I strongly suspect that's your failure point, especially with the rust present.


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... but I strongly suspect that's your failure point, especially with the rust present.
Thanks scrmmmm.

I think youíre right. The driveshaft splines do look decent but may very well be worn enough to slip/grind when put in park. I looks like, at some point, someone installed a driveshaft with longer splines to overcome the 1Ē of worn TC splines, but now have also been rounded off. As I slip the driveshaft in and twist it back and forth, I feel quite a bit of play between the teeth, which I doubt should be there. I wonder if a stretched TC chain would create the low rpm shudder I was feeling and simultaneously torque the spindle teeth flat? Have you guys ever heard that causing shuddering?

But, I will report back when I change the TC spindle, chain and front driveshaft. Just scared of throwing money at those parts and it not actually fixing the issue considering that it did have a shaft with longer splines and I did do the front CVs when I bought it (I under that the c-clip on new cvs can be a failure point if not fully inserted).

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Old 10-08-2019, 01:49 AM
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Mine was replaced at 136,000 miles with a new front driveshaft and a used transfer case that had 76,000 miles on it. Now at 367,000 miles and there is no play in the splines, nor any indication of chain stretch when it was inspected at 300,000 miles.


On reassembly, make sure you pack the splines with a marine rated grease (think boat trailer wheel bearing), and direct the A/C condensate drain away from the driveshaft. That's what causes most of the rust activity.


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Well, it turns out that the CV joint on the passenger side popped out of place and was the cause of the grinding noise heard in the video.

I replaced the transfer case and front driveshaft anyway due to the rust and questionable splines.

She's back on the road now, but the transmission still shudders at low rpm. It just can't quite decide which gear to go in, but stops when I let off, or push the throttle.

Would that be caused by a dirty filter? Bad solenoid?
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Same issues any resolution?

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This is for you Sir Phil,
Car: 4.6is, 02, 129K, DINAN II trans software

Symtoms:
1. Harsh thump from 2-1

2. REVS seem to be high but the beast does not seem to be moving like it used to. It does get going after 40+ from start, but taking off very slow..dragging.

3. Service Engine light comes ON & OFF. no particular interval with no warnings, it has never experienced Trans fail code yet.. (TW)

4. It does seem like the tranny is slipping 4-5 gear.

Thanks for all your help mate!
New BMW owner, new e53 X5 owner and new poster wondering if this issue was answered or resolved as Iím having similar issues however also get the trans fail safe message. When started cold X5 will shift through all gears and run smoothly at highway speeds. Once warm it will skip 1-3 and ďthumpĒ into 4-5 in both manual and auto driving causing trans fail safe. Hereís what Iíve done so far:
Replaced transmission cooler and thermostat, drained and filled trans fluid and replaced filter and gasket according to guidelines, replaced speed output sensor (P0721 code), replaced trans wiring harness (including temp sensor), drained and filled TC fluid, drained and filled engine oil and replaced filter (Valvoline MaxLife used for all fluids), drained and filled coolant according to guidelines, replaced power steering pump (was going out) and drained and filled fluid, replaced fan clutch pulley (cracked from previous power steering pump being installed incorrectly), replaced MAF, cleaned ECM, about to replace B2S2 O2 sensor (P0440, P0057), engine average temp 105 C, trans average temp 95 C, battery average 13.4 - 13.6v running 3000 rpmís. No longer pulling code P0731 now pulling P0733. Btw purchases vehicle 12/2019 with 144k miles and discover most of these issues and solutions from this forum so EXTREMELY grateful this exists! Hoping someone can assist with potential solutions before tearing into the transmission.
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