Estoril Blue 4.8is

[wrex]

So wish I could pic this up, but I can't get rid of my 02 estoril blue.

[PropellerHead]

Originally Posted by OptimusPriM5

I guess people dont follow the use of bolded text. I was stating that the x5m's are MONTE CARLO BLUE not Estoril. I obviously should have more direct in my statement. That was why I was saying its even more rare.

I will agree with the others that the post as written was very confusing- and even with the addition of bold text.

[PropellerHead]

Originally Posted by gruppeM3

Also if you guys have any tips on selling or know of other enthusiast forums where it would be appreciated, please let me know.

The best tip on selling is to start bidding with what your research shows as reasonable in the current market. The market for your vehicle at the price you are starting negotiations has spoken- with silence. If you want the market to respond with something other than silence, adjust your ask to be in line with demand.

For reference, my 2004 4.8is was only about $10k more than your starting/asking/negotiations price. That was with 11k total miles and was 2.5 years ago.

Again, this is offered as nothing but advice to your request for suggestions on selling. Not trying to rain on any parades.

[gruppeM3]

Originally Posted by wrex

So wish I could pic this up, but I can't get rid of my 02 estoril blue.

Well it's not all that bad. You already have something very similar to my X5

Originally Posted by PropellerHead

The best tip on selling is to start bidding with what your research shows as reasonable in the current market. The market for your vehicle at the price you are starting negotiations has spoken- with silence. If you want the market to respond with something other than silence, adjust your ask to be in line with demand.

For reference, my 2004 4.8is was only about $10k more than your starting/asking/negotiations price. That was with 11k total miles and was 2.5 years ago.

Again, this is offered as nothing but advice to your request for suggestions on selling. Not trying to rain on any parades.

I see where you are coming from. I don't think I'm out of line with the asking price though. This was just spur of the moment. I will be trading it in tomorrow if nothing gets done by then. I won't be taking much of a loss compared to my asking price so it's all good.

I wanted it to go to a member that would appreciate it. As difficult as this may be to believe I actually found a dealership that appreciates the rarity of the car along with the tasteful mods. This is the first time I can say that in all of my car shopping years.

[gruppeM3]

Originally Posted by PropellerHead

The best tip on selling is to start bidding with what your research shows as reasonable in the current market. The market for your vehicle at the price you are starting negotiations has spoken- with silence. If you want the market to respond with something other than silence, adjust your ask to be in line with demand.

For reference, my 2004 4.8is was only about $10k more than your starting/asking/negotiations price. That was with 11k total miles and was 2.5 years ago.

Again, this is offered as nothing but advice to your request for suggestions on selling. Not trying to rain on any parades.

I guess that might have come off a bit confusing since I put 19k obo. I already know that people never offer full price. I figured someone would offer me around 17.5k. I would honestly be willing to take 17k. Nothing less. If I were offered even a dollar less I would rather trade it in. The dealer is offering close to that number.

[gruppeM3]

Quick update guys. So it turns out that there are literally no 328 diesels in the US with the options that my wife and I want. So that means no trade on the X5 either. I will have to order it and wait over two months for it to arrive.

With that said, I have updated the thread with a no BS price. I am pretty firm with what I am asking for, 17K. If you guys are interested please let me know. Thanks

[Ricky Bobby]

Doesn't surprise me. Dealers barely have "regular cars" (e.g. not diesel) with all options, color combo etc. I would like so I did find it surprising that the 328D was so easy for you.

Most people who want something even REMOTELY specific from a new car today have to order it, it's sad because the days of walking in your local dealership, showing off your pristine ride to get max trade value are over. The dealers don't keep enough inventory for the most part, and who can blame them. No one wants cars sitting on lots for months when you can get one factory fresh in 90 days.


Sorry to hear OP, and good luck with the Estoril sale, as well as delivery of your 328D.

[gruppeM3]

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby

Doesn't surprise me. Dealers barely have "regular cars" (e.g. not diesel) with all options, color combo etc. I would like so I did find it surprising that the 328D was so easy for you.

Most people who want something even REMOTELY specific from a new car today have to order it, it's sad because the days of walking in your local dealership, showing off your pristine ride to get max trade value are over. The dealers don't keep enough inventory for the most part, and who can blame them. No one wants cars sitting on lots for months when you can get one factory fresh in 90 days.


Sorry to hear OP, and good luck with the Estoril sale, as well as delivery of your 328D.

Yeah. Most of the cars they had were bare bones. Or they had a very crappy combination of options. They kept trying to sell me on the new "sensa tech" which is their new version of leatherette. I was going to settle but then I thought to myself "why am I going to settle when I am about to shell out over 50K for a brand new car"!? Screw that! I guess I kinda understand. After all they are salesman. They want the sale now. They don't really care about what you want.

[gruppeM3]

By the way, tires were just replaced. So that's one less thing you will have to worry about

Bridgestone Run flats

[Ricky Bobby]

Originally Posted by gruppeM3

Yeah. Most of the cars they had were bare bones. Or they had a very crappy combination of options. They kept trying to sell me on the new "sensa tech" which is their new version of leatherette.

Totally unrelated, but one of my best friends is a master tech at the local Lexus dealership, and he actually told me that its possible in a couple years that Lexus might not offer traditional "real leather" on a lot of its models, even the higher end ones.

The thought process behind this is 2 things. 1) The new "leatherettes", vinyl seats, faux leather, whatever you want to call them are starting to look and feel closer to real leather than ever before.

And 2) It's all about longevity of the interior. 100% real leather is a maintenance, as far as keeping grime off the seats, conditioning it to keep it supple, etc. Most people on lease or whatever barely vacuum their interiors, you expect the leather to be in tip top shape? Lexus in this case wants an interior that is durable as can be, so that it adds value to the second owner, CPO buyer, etc a couple years down the line.


I'll remark on this, my X5 seats are 10 years old and 69k miles, and they look just as good as my wife's Toyota Rav4 real leather seats, and she has 35k miles. Actually, the thigh bolsters on my car look better, you already can see plenty of wrinkles on hers from getting in and sliding your thighs across the bolsters.

And my buddy says that is the number one reason they are looking to fade out leather, because after a couple years the seats just don't age well, even with proper care ( you can't expect to tell someone to not slide their thighs across the bolster to avoid wear marks and wrinkling of the leather)


Good luck on your order though, hope you ordered M-sport! Still pissed that you still can't get a proper manual trans with the new diesels, I thought that might be a replacement for my X5 someday.