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mobilejo · #11 04-01-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fmugur

I don't think it will work. The e46 beside the shape it comes with cd drive and the e53 comes with tape. I assume it will be a conflict when the handshake takes place between the devices. The e53 bordmonitor will most likely look for the cd changer while the e46 will not know what that is. The amp might not recognize the handshake message from the e46 monitor and it will turn off. Isn't the e46 bordmonitor deeper than the e53 one? It might not be enough space for it in the x5.
I might be wrong but I guess if cd was an option for the x5 then BMW would have implemented it in the later e53 models.

You could get both e46 and e53 with tape or cd. I have changed tape monitors for cd monitors in the past and the monitor works, but the cd drive is non functioning.

The electrics will connect up and function fine, it's the physical fitment of the screen that may be an issue. As said, mounting will be different but if you are prepared to cut and modify you may get it to fit. It won't just slide in and screw in so if that's what you're looking for then you have your answer

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fmugur · #12 04-01-2014, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilejo

You could get both e46 and e53 with tape or cd. I have changed tape monitors for cd monitors in the past and the monitor works, but the cd drive is non functioning.

The electrics will connect up and function fine, it's the physical fitment of the screen that may be an issue. As said, mounting will be different but if you are prepared to cut and modify you may get it to fit. It won't just slide in and screw in so if that's what you're looking for then you have your answer

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Good info. Here is a question though...
Even if the audio system on the X5 has DSP? I would expect no sound on X5 if I install a bordmonitor from e46. Did you swap between X5 and e46 or between e46s?

The difference between the DSP and non-DSP amps is that the volume is controlled through the iBus on the DSP amp while on the non-DSP the headunit has to control the radio output volume. I assume if the e46 bordmonitor is installed on a DSP X5 then iBus message sent for audio is not the right one.
I don't have experience with the bordmonitors but I have been through some challenges with the DSP amp iBus in the past.
I know the amp will turn off if the iBus handshake is not completed properly. The first time you start the audio system it might work but in a few minutes the amp will stop.

Qsilver7 · #13 04-01-2014, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilejo

You could get both e46 and e53 with tape or cd. I have changed tape monitors for cd monitors in the past and the monitor works, but the cd drive is non functioning.

The electrics will connect up and function fine, it's the physical fitment of the screen that may be an issue. As said, mounting will be different but if you are prepared to cut and modify you may get it to fit. It won't just slide in and screw in so if that's what you're looking for then you have your answer

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Are you sure you're not confusing the business CD and Cassette units with the Nav monitor?

The e53 could be had with the C53 (in-dash cassette) or the CD53 (in-dash single CD player) or the business radio w/MD player which would be paired with a MID...but I've never seen an e53 X5 with an in-dash CD player w/Nav screen....and the part database doesn't support it either...not that I can find.

The e53 X5 with Nav monitor...only came with a housing that contained a cassette player behind the screen (see item #2 in the diagram & part nbr index):

Whereas...the set-up with the MID...the e53 X5 could have either the in-dash cassette or in-dash CD player:

(Business Radio w/Cassette player)

(Business Radio w/CD player)

(Business Radio w/MD player)

CarlosT95 · #14 04-01-2014, 03:10 PM

Well my bmw has a in dash nav with a cd behind the screen, I am not talking about interchanging the on board monitors I'm asking if the e46 nav system box in the trunk will work on the e53 because my nav system box in the trunk no longer works

fmugur · #15 04-01-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosT95

Well my bmw has a in dash nav with a cd behind the screen, I am not talking about interchanging the on board monitors I'm asking if the e46 nav system box in the trunk will work on the e53 because my nav system box in the trunk no longer works

Your bmw X5 has the CD behind the screen and it worked? Can you take a picture and post it please. I don't know if we are talking about the same 'oranges' here.
Qsilver answered your question with the diagrams but now I am totally confused about your last statement. I am pretty sure BMW never made a NAV with CD behind the screen for X5...

Qsilver7 · #16 04-01-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosT95

...I'm asking if the e46 nav system box in the trunk will work on the e53 because my nav system box in the trunk no longer works

This information was given in post #9 (and below)...click the direct links to the part nbr cross reference given to the right of each of the Nav CPU to see what other BMW models used that same BMW part nbr.

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Originally Posted by Qsilver7

...see examples below:

MK 4 Nav CPU model application: RealOEM.com * Part Cross-reference
MK 3 Nav CPU model application: RealOEM.com * Part Cross-reference
MK 2 Nav CPU model application: RealOEM.com * Part Cross-reference

{#1 Nav CPU}

We don't know which of the Nav CPUs ("nav system boxes") the e46 you were referring to had...so I looked up the MK2, MK3, & MK4, and posted direct links to the part database that list what BMW models uses that same Nav CPU (regardless of which of the multiple BMW part nbrs that were used during their time period).

MK 2

MK 3

MK 4