When will E70 come with the 3.5i and 5.0i engine?

[JCL]

Originally Posted by M6X

is it just me? or does bmw pick engine displacements with numbers that are multiples of 2 for the x5? so is the 6er and 7er. only the 3, x3 and 5er have a 3.5l. im talking about newer models btw.

for example for x5 there's 3.0 and 4.4, 4.6, 4.8, divide by two you get 1.5, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4.

if you take a 3.5, and you get 1.25. guess bmw only want to end at 1 d.p. not 2.

ok am i making any sense lol?

To quote my friend SAN (post #2, above):

huh???? what are you talking about???

1) There is no 3.5l (presuming you mean 3.5 litre) 35 is a marketing designation, the 3.5 litre six disappeared from North America some time ago. Nice engine in a 535 and 735 though.

2) The final two digits haven't meant displacement for some time now. I recall the 318 in 1993 that went to 1.9 litres to gain torque; the 325 with a 2.3 litre engine; then the 328 3 litre, and the 325 3 litre in North America; culminating in the 'turbo factor' applied to the 3.0 and 4.4. Face it, it is all marketing, and they pick numbers based on what they sound like and look like on the butt of the vehicle. Possibly even because they have too many chrome insignias left over to use up.

3) I know I am going to regret asking this, but why would you divide 3.5 (even if it was displacement) by two? OK, because you did it above, even though it means nothing. Well then, 3.5 divided by 2 would be 1.75, not 1.25. Check your calculator, the battery may be flat.

4) If you wanted to divide by anything (??) why not pick cylinders, to get displacement per cylinder? At least it means something. 3.0 = 500 cc per cylinder, which for a V8 gives 4.0 litres (mmm, nice engine in the M3) and for a V10 gives 5.0 litres (mmm, nice engine in the M5, maybe there is a trend here).

What does all this mean? Absolutely nothing. Hope you are sharing around whatever you are smoking or drinking, it must be good stuff.

[M6X]

LMAO (at myself) yeah no idea what i was saying. about the 3.0 / 2 = 1.25. not sure what happened there either.

Originally Posted by JCL

To quote my friend SAN (post #2, above):

huh???? what are you talking about???

1) There is no 3.5l (presuming you mean 3.5 litre) 35 is a marketing designation, the 3.5 litre six disappeared from North America some time ago. Nice engine in a 535 and 735 though.

2) The final two digits haven't meant displacement for some time now. I recall the 318 in 1993 that went to 1.9 litres to gain torque; the 325 with a 2.3 litre engine; then the 328 3 litre, and the 325 3 litre in North America; culminating in the 'turbo factor' applied to the 3.0 and 4.4. Face it, it is all marketing, and they pick numbers based on what they sound like and look like on the butt of the vehicle. Possibly even because they have too many chrome insignias left over to use up.

3) I know I am going to regret asking this, but why would you divide 3.5 (even if it was displacement) by two? OK, because you did it above, even though it means nothing. Well then, 3.5 divided by 2 would be 1.75, not 1.25. Check your calculator, the battery may be flat.

4) If you wanted to divide by anything (??) why not pick cylinders, to get displacement per cylinder? At least it means something. 3.0 = 500 cc per cylinder, which for a V8 gives 4.0 litres (mmm, nice engine in the M3) and for a V10 gives 5.0 litres (mmm, nice engine in the M5, maybe there is a trend here).

What does all this mean? Absolutely nothing. Hope you are sharing around whatever you are smoking or drinking, it must be good stuff.

[JCL]

Glad you took it in the spirit it was offered.

[M6X]

Originally Posted by JCL

Glad you took it in the spirit it was offered.

hehe np, man... i picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

[bimmerrookie]

Originally Posted by JCL

Did you actually read my response? You did say 3.5; I am not sure what you mean by 3.5, whether you are referring to displacement or something else, but there is no such engine. As I pointed out in post #3, there is a 35 designation used in the X6, referring to a 3.0 twin turbo engine. '35' is also the final two digits of models like the 335 and 535. You continue to refer to an engine called the 3.5i that simply doesn't exist in any model. Same story for the 5.0 that you refer to.

Another small point, but important to us engine guys: why are you comparing the 3.0 to other V6 SUVs? It isn't a V6. Compare it to other inline 6 engines, or other 6 cylinder engines, but not other V6 engines.

Anyway, hope you got the info you were looking for. There is no announcement on availability, it is all speculation as to when these engines will show up in the E70.

I did read your response, I did say 3.5i and 5.0i. What is wrong with that? That's how X3 and X5 distinguish the 2 engine displacement. X5 is using 3.0si and 4.8i. I don't know you are driving, maybe you are driving a X5 30 or a X5 48 if that how you want to put it...

[JCL]

Originally Posted by bimmerrookie

I did read your response, I did say 3.5i and 5.0i. What is wrong with that? That's how X3 and X5 distinguish the 2 engine displacement. X5 is using 3.0si and 4.8i. I don't know you are driving, maybe you are driving a X5 30 or a X5 48 if that how you want to put it...

Simply that there is no 3.5 or 5.0, whether i, l, or otherwise. The X3 and X5 models are the 3.0, 4.4, and 4.8, signifying engine displacement.

The 35i and 50i are X6 designations, signifying not displacement but rather some sort of 'power equivalent' as they are in fact 3.0tt and 4.4tt models.

What I am driving is shown in my signature - 535 is equivalent power to the X6 35, most likely.

[M6X]

[quote=JCL] I am driving is shown in my signature/quote]

dont mean to go OT but am i the only one not seeing your sig?

[rh71]

[QUOTE=M6X]

Originally Posted by JCL

I am driving is shown in my signature/quote]

dont mean to go OT but am i the only one not seeing your sig?

sigs only show in that person's first post in each thread.

[M6X]

[quote=rh71]

Originally Posted by M6X

sigs only show in that person's first post in each thread.

thnx, the second Duhhhh moment for me in this thread.

[LeMansX5]

The N63 engine will come to X5 in not so distant future.

http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e70-forum/...k-filings.html

Also coming in F01 next year