Playing MPEG4 Video

[ryX5]

I only tried it in the rear entertainment system. I will try the MPEG4 DVD in the changer as well and let you know.

[haigha]

Originally Posted by ryX5

I only tried it in the rear entertainment system. I will try the MPEG4 DVD in the changer as well and let you know.

Thanks for posting your results so far

[LVR]

Originally Posted by haigha

Commercial DVDs are encoded in MPEG-2, not MPEG-4.

You're correct about containers though, the OP needs to find out what container format(s) and profile(s) are supported for MPEG-4 video and what bit rates, resolutions, etc. The information is likely on the Internet somewhere

Yaawwwn.... really!!!! ....not interested in a pissing contest, but I said a DVD format, NOT the format for Commercial DVD's.

Also, as I pointed out, he was coding to mp4 which is a computer supported format (and therefore won't work in BMW's), and DIFFERENT to Mpeg4. That is after all what he was trying to figure out and hence the question... Once an Mpeg4 was created they work...... go figure...

Just for your interest......

MPEG4

An ISO/IEC standard 14496 developed by the Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG), the committee that also developed MPEG-1 and MPEG-2. These standards made interactive video on CD-ROM, DVD and Digital Television possible. MPEG-4 is the result of another international effort involving hundreds of researchers and engineers from all over the world. MPEG-4 was finalized in October 1998 and became an International Standard in 1999. The fully backward compatible extensions under the title of MPEG-4 Version 2 were frozen at the end of 1999, to acquire the formal International Standard Status early in 2000. Several extensions were added since and work on some specific work-items is still in progress.

MPEG-4 builds on the proven success of three fields:

Digital television
Interactive graphics applications (synthetic content)
Interactive multimedia (World Wide Web, distribution of and access to content)

More information about MPEG-4 can be found at MPEG’s home page

[haigha]

Originally Posted by LVR

Yaawwwn.... really!!!! ....not interested in a pissing contest, but I said a DVD format, NOT the format for Commercial DVD's.

Actually, you wrote "DVD format is MPEG4, whereas MP4 is ipod, Xbox etc and is a container format FOR MPEG4," with no indefinite article at the front. I don't know anyone in my field that would say "DVD format is MPEG-4." It makes no sense. Here is a good definition of MPEG-4 from the Wikipedia page I linked to in my earlier post:

MPEG-4 is a collection of methods defining compression of audio and visual (AV) digital data.


Notice that there is no mention of DVD in the entire article. Also, there is no mention of MPEG-4 on the DVD article but it does refer to MPEG-2.

Also, as I pointed out, he was coding to mp4 which is a computer supported format (and therefore won't work in BMW's), and DIFFERENT to Mpeg4. That is after all what he was trying to figure out and hence the question... Once an Mpeg4 was created they work...... go figure...

First off, .MP4s are MPEG-4 files: MPEG-4 files with audio and video generally use the standard .mp4 extension.

Lots of consumer DVD players, including those for vehicles, play .MP4s. Samples:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...20dvd%20player

The container format that worked for the OP is .AVI. This is used primarily on computers and was originally created by Microsoft in 1992 before vehicle DVD players existed. So much for your "computer supported format" theory

The key to solving the problem was the container format and what part of MPEG-4 video was supported by the player, as I suggested.

Just for your interest......

I know what MPEG-4 is.

The link http://mpeg.telecomitalialab.com/ you provided doesn't even work. Next time try posting about something you know something about and we might be able to have a pissing contest

[ryX5]

My guess is that the rear entertainment system is based on Windows CE, hence the (Microsoft) AVI support.
Unfortunately, the DVD changer up front does not support AVI compressed video (I tried the AVI DVD's which work in the rear). In any case, it's a major design flaw in my opinion that you can't use the DVD changer to play video in the rear entertainment system nor can you control it from idrive.
Oh well, at least now I can have DVD's with a few movies on each to keep the kids entertained in the back without having to reach back to change DVD's too often...

[haigha]

Originally Posted by ryX5

My guess is that the rear entertainment system is based on Windows CE, hence the (Microsoft) AVI support...

Quite possible but there are Linux parsers for AVI and it has MPEG-4 support. AVI is not a complicated format to parse and, AFAIK, there are no licensing fees required to use it.

BTW, here is a good summary of the container formats and which video and audio formats they can contain.

Too bad the changer doesn't support playing back the .AVI videos

[LVR]

Originally Posted by haigha

Actually, you wrote "DVD format is MPEG4, whereas MP4 is ipod, Xbox etc and is a container format FOR MPEG4," with no indefinite article at the front. I don't know anyone in my field that would say "DVD format is MPEG-4." It makes no sense. Here is a good definition of MPEG-4 from the Wikipedia page I linked to in my earlier post:

MPEG-4 is a collection of methods defining compression of audio and visual (AV) digital data.

Notice that there is no mention of DVD in the entire article. Also, there is no mention of MPEG-4 on the DVD article but it does refer to MPEG-2.

my turn.... you reckon you know all about this yet are only quoting from wiki.... well let me indulge you..... MPEG-4 is used for HD DVD! yes, you read correctly, D...V...D.... now, since you know so much, I'm sure you know from the below 'where' it says MPEG-4 (hint... you can even use wiki)


Media type High-density optical disc Encoding VC-1, H.264, and MPEG-2 Capacity 15 GB (single layer) 30 GB (dual layer) Read mechanism 1× @ 36 Mbit/s & 2× @ 72 Mbit/s Developed by DVD Forum Usage Data storage, including high-definition video

Lots of consumer DVD players, including those for vehicles, play .MP4s. Samples:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...20dvd%20player

gee that was an AMAZON (sic) leap of web searching. Of course some dedicated DVD players can play MP4, just like they can play audio CD's as do heaps of other items (ipod, PSP, iphone ring a bell????). My questions were trying to point out the difference between Mp4 (NOT supported by the BMW car player according to his list) and MPEG-4.... The OP wasn't getting anywhere was he, but we already knew that because it was playing the sound only and not his video. Secondly, assuming he understood the difference and I was misunderstanding his use of Mp4 and Mpeg-4 in his post, I simply asked for further info.

!!!!! (tool - australian slang)

The container format that worked for the OP is .AVI. This is used primarily on computers and was originally created by Microsoft in 1992 before vehicle DVD players existed. So much for your "computer supported format" theory

You really can't read can you.... Mp4 is a container format and so are avi's. The MP4 file format is originally based on Apple's Quicktime file, which is a computer supported format.

I know what MPEG-4 is.

The information is likely on the Internet somewhere

reaallly??? 'and provides link to wikipedia' ...... errr

The link http://mpeg.telecomitalialab.com/ you provided doesn't even work. Next time try posting about something you know something about and we might be able to have a pissing contest

My Bad...... would you like me to point you to the proper information that you know all about? I can even point you to the web site if you like.... if you're talking about a pissing contest I suggest you check your pants..... there's a little bit of dribble...

obviously you cannot read, so let me spell it out for you

THE

STATEMENT

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DO

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MP4

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NOT

MPEG4

oh, and by the way, if you're gonna quote 'official definitions' why don't you try a little harder instead of 'imadeitupedia'??

Now.... to point out the obvious, you really are a KNOB (end of an appendage) coming in and 'expertly' correcting someone who was trying to assist the OP? Offer your help to the OP and leave it at that....

[LVR]

Originally Posted by ryX5

My guess is that the rear entertainment system is based on Windows CE, hence the (Microsoft) AVI support.
Unfortunately, the DVD changer up front does not support AVI compressed video (I tried the AVI DVD's which work in the rear). In any case, it's a major design flaw in my opinion that you can't use the DVD changer to play video in the rear entertainment system nor can you control it from idrive.
Oh well, at least now I can have DVD's with a few movies on each to keep the kids entertained in the back without having to reach back to change DVD's too often...

Why don't you try the methods outlined using the following Mp4 to DVD for standalone players software tutorials?

DVDFLICK

NERO

Cheers

J

[haigha]

Originally Posted by LVR

my turn.... you reckon you know all about this yet are only quoting from wiki.... well let me indulge you..... MPEG-4 is used for HD DVD! yes, you read correctly, D...V...D.... now, since you know so much, I'm sure you know from the below 'where' it says MPEG-4 (hint... you can even use wiki)

HD DVD is not DVD and has nothing to do with the OP. You are clutching at straws, straw man.

gee that was an AMAZON (sic) leap of web searching. Of course some dedicated DVD players can play MP4, just like they can play audio CD's as do heaps of other items (ipod, PSP, iphone ring a bell????).

Do you have a point here besides illustrating your twisted way of admitting that I was correct?

What was wrong with using an Amazon search to illustrate that some consumer DVD players, including in-vehicle ones, support .MP4?

My questions were trying to point out the difference between Mp4 (NOT supported by the BMW car player according to his list) and MPEG-4.... The OP wasn't getting anywhere was he, but we already knew that because it was playing the sound only and not his video. Secondly, assuming he understood the difference and I was misunderstanding his use of Mp4 and Mpeg-4 in his post, I simply asked for further info.

You were trying to help the OP but wrote misleading information. Too bad that you cannot understand that.

You really can't read can you.... Mp4 is a container format and so are avi's. The MP4 file format is originally based on Apple's Quicktime file, which is a computer supported format.

I can read. It's unfortunate that you don't know how to write well or accurately.

reaallly??? 'and provides link to wikipedia' ...... errr

Point out any inaccuracies in the Wikipedia articles that I quoted.

My Bad...... would you like me to point you to the proper information that you know all about? I can even point you to the web site if you like.... if you're talking about a pissing contest I suggest you check your pants..... there's a little bit of dribble...

You cannot admit to a mistake can you? And there is no contest here. You were knocked out in the first round. Time to wipe yourself off the floor and go home before you show more evidence of your brain damage.

obviously you cannot read, so let me spell it out for you...

Instead of admitting you were, at best, unclear you resort to shouting. LOL

oh, and by the way, if you're gonna quote 'official definitions' why don't you try a little harder instead of 'imadeitupedia'??

LVR again shows his ignorance. The Wikipeida pages contain accurate information and are readable. I never suggested they were "official defintions."

They are much easier to read than the specs. But if you're interested, here's a book:

http://www.amazon.com/MPEG-4-Book-IM.../dp/0130616214

and an overview of the standard:

http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/sta...G-4/MPEG-4.htm

Now.... to point out the obvious, you really are a KNOB (end of an appendage) coming in and 'expertly' correcting someone who was trying to assist the OP? Offer your help to the OP and leave it at that....

I was helping the OP, partly by pointing out the inaccuracies in your posts. Too bad you can't see that.

Keep posting your loquacious laughable lilts, LVR. You are quite amusing.

[haigha]

Originally Posted by LVR

Why don't you try the methods outlined using the following Mp4 to DVD for standalone players software tutorials?
...

This is a good idea