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Old 01-20-2011, 07:13 PM
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Terry, no offense, but that's like asking Shiv to do an independent test against your tune... (or vise versa).

It would be interesting to see an independent party do a test... But as Aidan has clearly stated he doesn't even consider you competition... As backward as that is..

When comparing other flash tunes from GIAC, COBB and some of the other flash tuners, to the piggyback systems the performance from the piggies is on par and in most cases better than any flash offers. Piggys are limited to the 13-15psi that flashes seem to be limited to, and with the introduction of upgraded turbos, Downpipes, and the such, Piggy systems seem to be able to handle and provide more power than a flash can. Maybe your flash (Aidan) can provide support for these Stg 2 and 3 cars, but most of the flashes out currently don't seem to have the complete support system in place that piggy's have. I don't know of any flash that supports the use of Meth either. the JB4 and Vishnu V4/5 both have safety measures built in to support the use of Meth. Have you come up with a way to provide a safe usage of Meth in the cars you flash?

All very serious questions, and not meant to degrade your product (Aidan, as you are currently an unknown to the US tuning scene), but this is important when comparing your product to what you call inferior products.

Can I also assume that you do not tune Petrol / Gas engines, and only Diesel? Or am I mistaken. I'm just trying to clear the air (seeing how this was originally a x35d thread)
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:18 PM
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Terry, no offense, but that's like asking Shiv to do an independent test against your tune... (or vise versa).

It would be interesting to see an independent party do a test... But as Aidan has clearly stated he doesn't even consider you competition... As backward as that is..

When comparing other flash tunes from GIAC, COBB and some of the other flash tuners, to the piggyback systems the performance from the piggies is on par and in most cases better than any flash offers. Piggys are limited to the 13-15psi that flashes seem to be limited to, and with the introduction of upgraded turbos, Downpipes, and the such, Piggy systems seem to be able to handle and provide more power than a flash can. Maybe your flash (Aidan) can provide support for these Stg 2 and 3 cars, but most of the flashes out currently don't seem to have the complete support system in place that piggy's have. I don't know of any flash that supports the use of Meth either. the JB4 and Vishnu V4/5 both have safety measures built in to support the use of Meth. Have you come up with a way to provide a safe usage of Meth in the cars you flash?

All very serious questions, and not meant to degrade your product (Aidan, as you are currently an unknown to the US tuning scene), but this is important when comparing your product to what you call inferior products.
US Tuning scene? Get a life man the cars in question are European cars FFS!


"Piggys are limited to the 13-15psi that flashes seem to be limited to, and with the introduction of upgraded turbos, Downpipes, and the such, Piggy systems seem to be able to handle and provide more power than a flash can.

Are you well? You are posting absolutely utter junk. A complete custom ecu tune is what is needed in order to compensate the installation of upgraded turbos, downpipes and the such.
It is obvious that you are not very well informed in the tuning scene so please dont post here on this thread anymore it was funny at the start but now the biased stupidity is getting boring.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:23 PM
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US Tuning scene? Get a life man the cars in question are European cars FFS!
but the OP was in the USA asking about a product for a USA X5d... THE ECU's in the US cars are different than the Euro spec'd cars... YOU need to do your research before you post useless things to all involved... Every single person except you was talking about US spec'd cars, not Euro spec'd cars... Please do your research before you burn bridges with everyone... I may not know everything, but i do know there are differences between US spec'd BMW's and Euro Spec'd BMW's...
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:26 PM
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but the OP was in the USA asking about a product for a USA X5d... THE ECU's in the US cars are different than the Euro spec'd cars... YOU need to do your research before you post useless things to all involved... Every single person except you was talking about US spec'd cars, not Euro spec'd cars... Please do your research before you burn bridges with everyone... I may not know everything, but i do know there are differences between US spec'd BMW's and Euro Spec'd BMW's...
Inside the maps parameters the difference between USA and EURO is simple.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:27 PM
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but the OP was in the USA asking about a product for a USA X5d... THE ECU's in the US cars are different than the Euro spec'd cars... YOU need to do your research before you post useless things to all involved... Every single person except you was talking about US spec'd cars, not Euro spec'd cars... Please do your research before you burn bridges with everyone... I may not know everything, but i do know there are differences between US spec'd BMW's and Euro Spec'd BMW's...
And have you nothing better to do such as licking Terrys ass?
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:33 PM
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And have you nothing better to do such as licking Terrys ass?
Now the true colors show... As I've stated in previous posts I have run both Vishnu Procede piggy system on my 335xi, and I currently run Terry's tune on my X5... I have no loyalty to any tuner, I go with who provides me what I need for my car. At the moment it's Terry who has the ONLY viable tune for my Gas/Petrol powered N55 X5. IF Vishnu, or Cobb or GIAC or someone else comes out with a better tune for the N55 POWERED x5, I will go with them, I have no loyalty to any one tuner.

BUT I refuse to knock anybody's tune if it provides what is advertised. Each system has it's own positives and it's negatives. But you, you knock anything that isn't your own product and that's wrong. Maybe *over* there in Ireland your the only good thing going, but we have variety over here and the Competition is good for everyone, keeps all the tuners on their toes here, what can I do to provide something better than what's out there... IF you don't like competition, then GTFO. I didnt' resort to insults, DON'T Confuse me for Kloogy.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:37 PM
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Now the true colors show... As I've stated in previous posts I have run both Vishnu Procede piggy system on my 335xi, and I currently run Terry's tune on my X5... I have no loyalty to any tuner, I go with who provides me what I need for my car. At the moment it's Terry who has the ONLY viable tune for my Gas/Petrol powered N55 X5. IF Vishnu, or Cobb or GIAC or someone else comes out with a better tune for the N55 POWERED x5, I will go with them, I have no loyalty to any one tuner.

BUT I refuse to knock anybody's tune if it provides what is advertised. Each system has it's own positives and it's negatives. But you, you knock anything that isn't your own product and that's wrong.
Certainly not. Once again, I explained and advised against a device that just fools the ECU. I think it is a very crude way of forcing extra bhp from an engine.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:43 PM
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Certainly not. Once again, I explained and advised against a device that just fools the ECU. I think it is a very crude way of forcing extra bhp from an engine.
Thank you for your advice... Thank you for your opinion, you are indeed titled to it.

Next time research your audience before stepping on some toes.... As I stated; everyone who's contributed to this thread was referring to a US spec'd BMW, which as you stated has different programming than the Euro spec'd BMW's.

If your product is superior, provide proof like Terry asked for. As everyone is full of words, actual proof speaks louder (actions are louder than words as they say).
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Terry,

Everybody knows that an ECU remap is going to give better results than a tuning box. Everybody knows that tuning boxes are cheaper.

Are we comparing the prices here or the performance result?

Here is another comparison if you cannot find an independant customer (may be hard for you since you have so many biased cronies backing you business)

Come to the NurBurg Ring and I will meet you there. Bring a stock BMW and fit your super box to it. I will custom tune mine. See who comes out first
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