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Old 02-25-2011, 10:46 PM
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Your dealer is wrong. He wants to get rid of their 2011 stock. People will be ordering these next week.
How can you order next week if it's not effective until April 1st?
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How can you order next week if it's not effective until April 1st?
I think the assumption is production starts in April which means you can put in orders now - 5 week build time.
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It seems like BMW might be getting a bit creative with their numbers...

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Well, there is no option 2011 for an $875 "Hi Fi Sound System". Either the base sound system, or the $1,200 "Premium Sound System".

And the 2012's still have the $1,200 premium sound system option, so there is $0 credit towards the premium system with the new revised hi-fi sound system. It seems like they perhaps made a minor upgrade to the base stereo (maybe added a couple of tweeters) and listed it as an $875 value? Thats a pretty big and seemingly arbitrary attribution of value. There is also perhaps a bit of creativity in the values for the tailgate, dimming mirrors, and lumbar support as well as they are not offered as stand-alone options, but at least they have some specific value as components of the convenience/premium packages they were part of.

Citing a bogus $875 value certainly helps pump the numbers. Furthermore, they do it with the Premium and most of the other configurations, but not with the 35i base. eg:

2012 35i (base model):
+$900 : Base price Increase
-$100 : Roof Rails now standard
-$100 : Cargo Cover now standard
-$400 : USB/iPod interface now standard
-$750 : BMW Assist now standard.
-$000 : Hi-Fi Sound now standard.
This works out exactly to BMW's quoted $450 savings attributing $0 to Hi-Fi. Why attribute $875 for the same inclusion in other configurations? At least list $1,325 in savings for the base to be consistant with the creative accounting...

Don't get me wrong, I think all these 2012 changes are great, and I'm glad I decided to wait for a 2012, but I don't like creativity when it comes to financial analysis... It isn't needed to demonstrate the value of the configuration changes and makes BMW look bad in my eyes when busted on it...

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How can you order next week if it's not effective until April 1st?
That was hypothetical comment. I will let you know the details tomorrow, but BMW starts production few weeks before the model year pricing goes into effect.
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I wouldn't feel jipped. Hell, mine was delivered yesterday, and although it stinks I was "oh-so-close" on the 2012's, I am sure I will love the 2011 just as much.

You have replaced your bulbs on the halo's, yes? I will be pestering you in the near future on how and where to do the bulb changes.
Yes, I have white corona rings (GP thunder "xenon" bulbs) and real LED license plate lights. I also put Sylvania bulbs for the rear turn signals. They are something like 20-30% brighter than stock bulbs.
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Wait so are these prices MSRP or invoice?
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Wait so are these prices MSRP or invoice?
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Does anyone have the new 2012 invoice pricing yet?
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Does anyone have the new 2012 invoice pricing yet?
No but I am going to assume that some of the packages whose amount didn't change means that invoice won't change (just an assumption). Then the others I'm calculating at 91% of MSRP for invoice, which is roughly the % from last year.
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That was hypothetical comment. I will let you know the details tomorrow, but BMW starts production few weeks before the model year pricing goes into effect.
Sounds good, I'm interested. Really want to do PCD and as a spring vacation. It'd be great to be able to order and then pickup in July.
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