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Old 09-04-2012, 09:15 AM
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X5 3.5d Extended Warranty ? Electronics

I'm nearing the end of my 80K full warranty service. In general, love the X5 3.5d. Great torque, superb weekend vehicle to haul stuff and just drive long distances.

I would like to keep this vehicle for a long time, and wondering about what to expect in those years 5 - 10 and beyond.

The X5 seems solid, and I've read great things about longevity.

My only issue is the electronics. I've had annoying events with failed electronics; warning that hood is open (it isn't), warning the diesel exhaust fluid is low (it isn't), and I've even had a voice activation kick in mid sequence asking me to confirm.

Concerned that these issues may now be costly in the future. Any thoughts or experiences in this area ?

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Old 09-04-2012, 10:03 AM
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Apart from
1. The intermittent battery discharge problem
2. The failing wate rpumps at around 65k
3. The emissions related issues that have caused many cars to be lemoned
I don't see any issues really
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:48 AM
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Apart from
1. The intermittent battery discharge problem
2. The failing wate rpumps at around 65k
3. The emissions related issues that have caused many cars to be lemoned
I don't see any issues really
Useless...

1 and 3 would have been apparent by now.

Op: 80k. Have you bothered to change the ATF???

The minor stuff doesn't bother me, but a $6000 tranny at 110k when they fail from lack of maintenance will be painful.

Oh, you said you have the "full" maintenance? A joke.

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Useless...
The minor stuff doesn't bother me, but a $6000 tranny at 110k when they fail from lack of maintenance will be painful.
No offense but I don't understand how someone can spend $60k+ on a vehicle, drive it 110k, then think it's painful to dump $6k into it to drive it another 110k.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:18 PM
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No offense but I don't understand how someone can spend $60k+ on a vehicle, drive it 110k, then think it's painful to dump $6k into it to drive it another 110k.
Then again, how could it be bad to suggest a 150$ maintenance that could save 6k$ down the road.
Simple math + 5850$ of options toward the next one !
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:37 PM
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No offense but I don't understand how someone can spend $60k+ on a vehicle, drive it 110k, then think it's painful to dump $6k into it to drive it another 110k.
No offense at all.

But wouldnt you think that dumping $6k into the car simply because you failed to maintain it would be 'painful'? Look at what I wrote.

Unlike some, I take a pretty rational approach to maintenance and repair costs...many owners panic with major repairs, thinking "I gotta get out of this car". For me, these things happen. Indeed, you kind of keep a running tally of time/miles and $$$. Every year that goes by without major repairs is 2,3k that goes into the 'rainy day kitty'.



An E70 from 100 to 200k miles will be a pretty nice car ... yes, maybe a bit dated- but decent creature comforts, handling, etc, etc. Put aside a few $K a year for refurb and repair and it will be solid investment.Figure a few odds and ends here and there, maybe an AC compressor, alternator, starter...a some suspension parts... these should be 1, 2k a pop.. nothing catastrophic (hopefully)

All assuming you dont abuse cars and you properly maintain (ie not just what BMW says)

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I just updated from a My 2010 X5 M-Sport 35d with all the options to a My 2013 X5 M50d with the same options.

Other than the new iDrive, paddle shifters, 8 speed sport gearbox, and an extra turbo (which gives you close to 750nm of torque) there is not much difference.

Yes its a new car but other than the old one having done 75,000klms which could have run for another 150,000klms quite easily, on thinking back should have kept it. I actually sold it to my next door neighbour, and with both cars in the driveway there hard to tell apart as both are white and it was a trouble free car
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But wouldnt you think that dumping $6k into the car simply because you failed to maintain it would be 'painful'? Look at what I wrote.
Yes, there's no excuse for that. A good reason to buy new, or buy one with well documented history, if you plan to keep it beyond the warranty.

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Unlike some, I take a pretty rational approach to maintenance and repair costs...many owners panic with major repairs, thinking "I gotta get out of this car". For me, these things happen. Indeed, you kind of keep a running tally of time/miles and $$$. Every year that goes by without major repairs is 2,3k that goes into the 'rainy day kitty'.
Agree on that. Repairing a car I like beats selling it and spending even more money on a newer car I get similar satisfaction from.

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An E70 from 100 to 200k miles will be a pretty nice car ... yes, maybe a bit dated- but decent creature comforts, handling, etc, etc. Put aside a few $K a year for refurb and repair and it will be solid investment.Figure a few odds and ends here and there, maybe an AC compressor, alternator, starter...a some suspension parts... these should be 1, 2k a pop.. nothing catastrophic (hopefully)
My current plan.
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Why are you all talking about 200k mile vehicles? It's in Canada. It has less than 50,000 miles on it, or 80,000 km. It had a four year warranty. If that warranty is almost up (I'm guessing here) then it will have 160,000 km or 100k miles after 8 years. Nothing will be worn out that can't be fixed in a few hours. It will be more likely to have nuisance failures, some of them electronic in origin, and none of them affected at all by whether or not the OP changes his transmission fluid at half the recommended interval.

To the OP: nothing you have heard about longevity applies to the E70 35d since neither the vehicle nor engine are old enough to have longevity yet. Both may be fine, but at this point in time everything is an opinion. Modern vehicles often become unreliable before they wear out. Durability and reliability are very different things.
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And a transmission service will be a lot more than $150.
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