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Old 08-17-2005, 02:11 PM
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8/04 Build Assist / BT Retrofit Help

Ok, I'm going for it - going to retrofit my '04 4.4 with the combo BT/Assist module (the new -056 version). Can someone confirm the following for me:

1) The new combo TCU should install in place of my original one in the same location -- no adapter, brackets, etc. needed. Just plug it in.

2) I will need to have the car re-coded after installation. Dealer time on a re-code should be one hour, 1.5 hours Max.

3) I have a Verizon Motorola E815, as does my wife. There is an eject-box snap in adapter available, but SIB 84-13-04 says it's not compatable in '04's due to "wiring incompatability". I believe the only incompatability is that the existing cellular antenna in the vehicle is already being utilized for assist. To work around this, a second cell antenna (roof / window/ bumper mount) could be installed. The only other thing the cradle does is power the phone when it is in the car -- connectivity is handled by the bluetooth link.

4) Am I missing anything important? Thanks in advance for your help!
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:14 PM
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I think you have it nailed. The only thing I can't comment on for sure is the eject box compatibility issue. I still haven't seen the definitive answer to that one yet.

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Old 08-17-2005, 02:27 PM
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Thanks UCrew

I will take some pics and document so we have an "updated" version of the retrofit!
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:44 AM
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One last question -- do I need a Bluetooth antenna too? Or is that in my vehicle already, just not working due to wrong TCU? 8/04 build '04.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:12 AM
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Good luck, almost done

Mfrymier,

I just completed this on my 3-04 X5, the E815 pairs flawlessly with the TCU. Read the posts under Peter D, and you can see the trial and errors

Yes, you do need the BT antenna and cable. Contact Randy at EIS Kits www.eiskits.com he has the OEM parts at $19.50 for the antenna and $21.50 for the cable. Since you've got Assist, you've got the Mic. (TCU+antanna+cable+coding=done)

#1 Correct
#2 Correct
#3 I'm working on the cradle for mine, the "incompatibility issue" (as far as I can see)is that the antenna cable that runs from the snap in cradle in the console to the TCU has the wrong Fakra connector on it. The 04 cable has a male end, it was designed to mate to the female bumper antenna plug bypassing the ULF module.

It's a matter of changing the FAKRA connector from male to female via a patch cable to allow the antenna cable from the phone in the snap in cradle to plug into the TCU. All of the 05's are set so the cradle plugs into the TCU, BT and Assist share the same bumper antenna.

The Voice recognition in the module works great, just remember that the cars VR has a seperate phone book from your cell phones, You have to program it under speak and spell to load the names.

Hit the talking head till it beeps, then say, "say name" the Vr prompts you for a name and then number, at the end of the number you can say "save" and your done. You can also voice dial a number, again hit the head and wait, it will read you a list of commands you can give it

Good luck.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:16 AM
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I need to do the retrofit as well would anyone give me the part #
I have an 06/04 4.4

thank you.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:32 PM
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any update on this.. any pic.. also have anyone done it the X3 08/04? and what do I need.. # I do have bmw assist
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:55 PM
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What I posted to mfrymier is correct, get the TCU from Crevier, get the BT antenna and Fakra connector cable from Randy at eiskits.com (bmw stuff just cheaper).
parts needed
1 tcu
2 BT antenna and conncetor cable
thats all if you you need if you have BMW assist.

The 815 snap in adapter fits and wires into the console fine, directions are on the site for installing this, the "compatability issue" is the Fakra connector at the TCU. The 04 BMW X5 was designed to have Assist or Bluetooth, so in a stock 04, you would plug the cable from the console directly into the bumper antenna if you canned the Assist and went BT. The only thing you need to do to utilize the existing antenna to work with BT and Assist is to get a Fakra adapter cable from Randy that converts the black male end 04 cable to one that fits the white antenna connector on the TCU. thats it, done

You've got to have the dealer code the car. some dealers like mine were lost, print all the articles from the site and discuss it with them first, it should take them more than an hour to do the job

good luck, its really easy once you clear the small BS
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:20 PM
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Thx Peter,

sorry for this newbie question.. but what exactly is the TCU.. and will I be able to find the part # in the ETK? (http://www.realoem.com/bmw/)?

I when on EIS and found this..

BMW BT antenna relocation cable pair #BTACCP $31.50
1 Meter Bluetooth Antenna cable #BTAC1M $21.00
OEM Bluetooth Antenna #BMWBTA $19.50

but unable to find the Fakra connector cable???

thank you again
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:21 PM
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Thx Peter,

sorry for this newbie question.. but what exactly is the TCU.. and will I be able to find the part # in the ETK? (http://www.realoem.com/bmw/)?

I when on EIS and found this..

BMW BT antenna relocation cable pair #BTACCP $31.50
1 Meter Bluetooth Antenna cable #BTAC1M $21.00
OEM Bluetooth Antenna #BMWBTA $19.50

but unable to find the Fakra connector cable???

thank you again
tdrag97

The TCU is a "telemetrics control unit", it sits in the absolute bottom of your left rear quarter panel, the assist module which you'll remove is there now. The BT antenna mounts to the top of the black bracket that holds the NAV and CD changer, there are 2 studs sticking up on the top, and this is where it goes. If you dont have the factory bracket, its unimportant, just secure the antenna near the top. Get the part from BMW, it had / has an $830 list price but if you call Vaheh at Crevier BMW, you'll find you get it for substantially less. If you get it from BMW, its warrantied for 2 years vs an Ebay "take a chance" thing. The latest edition part number is 84 10 6 965 056, this unit has voice recognition in it for a seperate vr phone book (not the cell phone) that you program into the TCU via voice commands

You dont need the antenna relocation cable, this is only used if you want to put the antenna somewhere else in the car, i.e. front. The cable for $21 is long enough to reach anywhere in the inside rear quarter compartment.

The Fakra adapter cable cable is something Randy will have to build for you, you'll only need it if you use the snap in adapter to hold the phone and want to connect the phone to the external antenna, you can use the snap in to power the phone and hold it without any modifiation. If you dont use the snap in you dont need the adapter.

Battery life and my east coast reception via Verizon has been phenominal on the 815, I was all set to put in the snap in to hold the phone as I figured I'd have to charge the phone daily etc, I go a full week plus without needing to charge the phone so I've put off the snap in.

Good luck with it
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