[eas] Official DICE iPod integration kit Q/A thread

[gburrell]

Tom,


On my 06 X3 I didn't see another 6 pin connector. I was using the one marked CDSAR. I'll look for another one tonight. (Found it)

I removed the radio and connected the CDSAR connector to the radio, but maybe if there is another connector I shouldn't have done that. I do have a coax connector on the back of the radio and there are two coax wires in the center console which are joined together. In the back by the DSP amp
there is another 2 coax connectors with the satelite wiring.

(Removed radio again, used multimeter to ring out cable from console to
radio, connections are good) Connected Dice to ghetto blaster, got sound,
but when connected to radio there is no sound output)

No satelite installed, but when I hooked up to the connectors in the back there was no sound as well (but this was before I switched the connectors on the radio to the CDSAR connector.

Any advice you can give me would be great.

Is there anything I need to do to get the radio to recognize the dice inputs.
It's recognizing the text ok.

Thanks

Gary

[gburrell]

Well I removed the radio again, and pulled the cable going into the CD changer section. Using a couple test probes I hooked it up to a ghetto blaster and got sound, but when plugged into the radio no sound output. When I switch to the CD changer mode I get CD CHECK and then the station on the display, but I don't even get static on the radio. I guess it's possible I've got a bad radio, but in the CD changer install instructions I see it has to be activated, does the activation enable the input on the radio? or do I have to try and get BMW to repair/replace my radio.

Thanks

Gary

[Tom G.]

Originally Posted by gburrell

Well I removed the radio again, and pulled the cable going into the CD changer section. Using a couple test probes I hooked it up to a ghetto blaster and got sound, but when plugged into the radio no sound output. When I switch to the CD changer mode I get CD CHECK and then the station on the display, but I don't even get static on the radio. I guess it's possible I've got a bad radio, but in the CD changer install instructions I see it has to be activated, does the activation enable the input on the radio? or do I have to try and get BMW to repair/replace my radio.

Thanks

Gary

Just to verify - you're tried both 6-pin connectors? Also - are you using the HD DICE or standard DICE?

I will also need to know the iPod generation and firmware you are testing with.

[gburrell]

Tom,

I'm using the HD-DICE kit. No IPOD right now just the (HD)radio. I tried both 6 pin plugs in the console and even went as far as to pull the radio and check that I had music at the connector plugged into the back of the radio. The radio controls the HD-DICE. The DICE puts out music which is wired into the radio but no sound. Is there anything that needs to be done to enable the CD changer inputs at the radio or do I need to look at getting BMW to repair/replace my radio. I'll have a new 30 Gig Photo arriving tommorrow. I can try that, but don't expect it would make any difference.

Thanks

Gary

[Tom G.]

Originally Posted by gburrell

Tom,

I'm using the HD-DICE kit. No IPOD right now just the (HD)radio. I tried both 6 pin plugs in the console and even went as far as to pull the radio and check that I had music at the connector plugged into the back of the radio. The radio controls the HD-DICE. The DICE puts out music which is wired into the radio but no sound. Is there anything that needs to be done to enable the CD changer inputs at the radio or do I need to look at getting BMW to repair/replace my radio. I'll have a new 30 Gig Photo arriving tommorrow. I can try that, but don't expect it would make any difference.

Thanks

Gary

Gary,

Let's try with the new iPod - give me a cell from your X3 and we'll run down some troubleshooting in real time.

[I Love BMW's]

Originally Posted by gburrell

Tom,

I'm using the HD-DICE kit. No IPOD right now just the (HD)radio. I tried both 6 pin plugs in the console and even went as far as to pull the radio and check that I had music at the connector plugged into the back of the radio. The radio controls the HD-DICE. The DICE puts out music which is wired into the radio but no sound. Is there anything that needs to be done to enable the CD changer inputs at the radio or do I need to look at getting BMW to repair/replace my radio. I'll have a new 30 Gig Photo arriving tommorrow. I can try that, but don't expect it would make any difference.

Thanks

Gary

I am having the same problem with my 2006 X3 with DSP. I tried both connections in the console, both connectors on the back of the radio and the rear connectors. The HD tuner and iPod display is working, but I am not getting any sound out of the radio. Did you ever get this working in your X3?

[gburrell]

Originally Posted by I Love BMW's

I am having the same problem with my 2006 X3 with DSP. I tried both connections in the console, both connectors on the back of the radio and the rear connectors. The HD tuner and iPod display is working, but I am not getting any sound out of the radio. Did you ever get this working in your X3?

I have an appointment at the dealer Monday to check out the radio. Some things I did find out which may help you (assuming it's not a radio problem).
1) There are 2 6 pin connectors in the console along side the 3 pin connector. If you do not have satellite radio you want the unmarked connector. The CDSARS connector goes to the back and is used with the satelite radio to couple over the CD changer (does not work if satellite is not installed)

2) In back of the radio you can either have the unmarked connector plugged in or the CDSARS conector. It should be the unmarked connector. If you are technically inclined you can disconnect the connector from the radio and use an RCA plug with a couple test pins soldered to one end to connect it to a portable stereo. If you hear sound (like i did) this means DICE is working, radio is not. (There are 4 wires at the conector. 2 grounds and L&R audio. Ground goes to outer connector, audio goes to center connector on RCA plugs)

3) There is a service bulliton 65 01 06 SI which has title "No Audio Sound from retrofitted CD changer" This may be related, but I have no way to get a copy of it. (OK got it)

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B650106g.htm

Hopefuly I'll have more info Monday.

Gary

[I Love BMW's]

Originally Posted by gburrell

I have an appointment at the dealer Monday to check out the radio. Some things I did find out which may help you (assuming it's not a radio problem).
1) There are 2 6 pin connectors in the console along side the 3 pin connector. If you do not have satellite radio you want the unmarked connector. The CDSARS connector goes to the back and is used with the satelite radio to couple over the CD changer (does not work if satellite is not installed)

2) In back of the radio you can either have the unmarked connector plugged in or the CDSARS conector. It should be the unmarked connector. If you are technically inclined you can disconnect the connector from the radio and use an RCA plug with a couple test pins soldered to one end to connect it to a portable stereo. If you hear sound (like i did) this means DICE is working, radio is not. (There are 4 wires at the conector. 2 grounds and L&R audio. Ground goes to outer connector, audio goes to center connector on RCA plugs)

3) There is a service bulliton 65 01 06 SI which has title "No Audio Sound from retrofitted CD changer" This may be related, but I have no way to get a copy of it. (OK got it)

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B650106g.htm

Hopefuly I'll have more info Monday.

Gary

Thanks for the additional information. I did try both connectors in the console, used an continuity meter to trace the correct connector on the radio and still couldn't get it to work. I was also able to get sound out of the Dice unit by using test pins as you suggested - so I guess it must be the radio.

Looking forward to hearing what your dealer has to say.

[gburrell]

Originally Posted by gburrell

I have an appointment at the dealer Monday to check out the radio. Some things I did find out which may help you (assuming it's not a radio problem).
......
3) There is a service bulliton 65 01 06 SI which has title "No Audio Sound from retrofitted CD changer" This may be related, but I have no way to get a copy of it. (OK got it)

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B650106g.htm

Hopefuly I'll have more info Monday.

Gary

As I suspected it was the issue in the service bulletin. However much as I pushed they would not cover it under warrenty ($130 charge). If you have a BMW CD changer or IPOD addapter this is covered under warrenty, but they won't cover it for aftemarket (I.E. you must use BMW accessories or pay for the priviledge of using after market)

Gary

[Tombodad]

Alright, so now it works, 60% of the time, perfectly, with text and everything with my nano. Still nothing with my video though. I tested it with an fm transmitter that uses the dock port on the bottom, and it works perfectly, so Im assuming its not the iPod.

Help?