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Old 03-07-2006, 02:48 PM
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Hmmm, what happened to the original post??

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i was wondering the same thing.
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The original post by Facelift is still here re: V27 availability in Germany.

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Hmmm, what happened to the original post??
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i think he meant the post that u quoted.
which, has now disappeared from ur post.

it was a post from TheOfficeMaven
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No matter what anyone here says (and the sysops keep deleting my posts as they must not even want to hear it), the nav firmware is indeed copyrighted material and so it is illegal to pass it around (or even to modify it). I'm sure that BMW would simply look at the passing around of the firmware with a blind eye, but I bet that if you asked them for an official answer you'd get an ear full.

I personally don't mind it being passed around (nor modified) as I don't feel that it is hurting anything per se. However, you can't merely deny the fact that what I am saying about it being illegal to do so is true (and just keep delete my posts).

I find it really funny that this board allows one action to take place (i.e. the distribution and modification of the nav firmware), but strictly prohibits any mention whatsoever of the nav map data discs.

What a hypocrisy!

I have a feeling that me voicing my opinion is only going to get me kicked off this board (and I hope not as I really do like the board), but I feel that I have to do it. It makes me sick to see Ace going around shaking his fist at anyone who even mentions the nav map disc, but at the same time feeling just fine about himself when it comes to the topic of the nav firmware. In my eyes (and according to the law - at least here in the U.S.) they're one in the same. You can't ignore one over the other.
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i think he meant the post that u quoted.
which, has now disappeared from ur post.

it was a post from TheOfficeMaven
Yes, apparently, the sysops don't like what I have to say about the nav firmware being copyrighted material.

So much for freedom of speech. eh!
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To my thinking, it's perfectly legal. It's a firmware upgrade for a hardware you PURCHASED, and as such, it should be free. For computer hardware I've never seen a company that doesn't distribute firmware upgrades freely.

We could argue on this, but it's pretty pointless, if we take such laws by the wording, all of us are criminals - if my kid draws a BMW logo in kindergarten, that is an infringement of copyright laws.
(Little bastard, next time I'll call the cops...)
I agree with your point that it's just firmware and it shouldn't matter if we upgrade our systems (since we paid a lot of money for them). However, you just can't use that as a way of justifying the fact that it's still not legal to do so.

I have no problem updating my nav system's firmware with a modified/hacked copy (as most folks here don't), but I don't try to kid myself that what I'm doing is legal either.
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Okay... Enough being off-topic. I won't say anymore (I hope my posts remain this time though as it really is something folks should think about - especially Ace).

Let's get back to the details of V27!
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I think there's no difference between v27 and v26 if you don't enable the perspective mode in the secret menu.

If you do that, you get the same version like 26.09a. Not more - not less.

Stefan
Hi Stefan,

Could you please explain what you mean by "the secret menu"? It's my understanding that in V27 (as with V26.09a) you can turn on the Perspective mode using the same menu where you select Pointing North or Travel Direction. Is this the menu that you are refereing to as the "secret menu"?

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Old 03-07-2006, 03:11 PM
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i honestly don't get y it would be illegal.
BMW doesn't charge for firmware upgrades,
nor does any other hardware manufacturer
that i know of. Bios upgrades for PC are free
to download, firmware for cell phones, etc.
if there was a charge for the upgrade, as there
is a charge for NAV Maps, i could understand.

either way, like u said, on the v27.
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