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Old 04-22-2009, 01:40 AM
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I agree, even BMW prefers to repair the existing wiring harnesses rather than replace them, simply due to the complexity of their original installation.

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To fit the retrofit loom, you only need to remove seats and a few panels and lift the carpet a bit.

To fit the original loom, probably all seats, remove carpet or lift a lot more, and also remove a lot more of the dash. Maybe all of the dash. And possibly unravel existing loom. I've never done it so I'm not sure exactly.

Remember, the original factory loom - which is for nav and many other things - is fitted to an empty metal shell of a car, and then everything added on top of it.

The retrofit loom is designed to be added to the car as an optional extra after the car is assembled, and is thus much much much easier to fit.

BMW issue retrofit instructions for their retrofit kits.
The do not publish instructions on how to replace factory loom other than their normal vehicle service instructions.

Refer to the WDS for loom layout and you'll see how the original loom is wired. Note location of connectors - and you'll get the idea as to where each wire goes, and what a job it would be to fit the factory loom. Personally - I wouldn't do it!
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:58 PM
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Well - fitted original factory harness because i'm stubborn and didnt feel like waiting. Job well done.. just didnt have time to fix things like the bluetooth. It also came with tv module cables so had to run the video to the mk4. Everything working including my dice ipod which wasn't working before. Actually - the one thing that isn't working is the DSP setup. But i'll tackle that when i tackle the bluetooth.

So yes - i sould have got the retrofit loom new. Would have been worth it. hind sight is 20/20.

So (i know, so don't tell me"you wouldn't have any problems if you bought the retrofit loom" - ok Meister.. go ahead and say it once) - my ignorant question now is what do i need to get the DSP working. I know once i get this working my ipod won't work. So i can live without that for a while. So more importantly - the telephone, oh 1 other thing - voice of nav.. i upgraded to v32 and selected female voice. My splash screen is the one attached and i have the NY skyline.. loving it. Will post pics.

So questions in order of importance / fix:

1. Bluetooth and telephone module (not even an option on nav screen - is this because no DSP? I think i saw DSP before when turning on after upgrading version but i did a few other things after that)
2. Voice of Navigation
3. DSP for amp and sub. currently not hooked up. installer said it was missing the parts on my loom. Also thinking going custom.. maybe this is my excuse. for now i don't blast my music.
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Old 04-25-2009, 08:05 PM
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Hey, would I do that to you??? I'll be happy for you when all of it is up and running and I'll be the 1st to tell you...
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1. Bluetooth and telephone module (not even an option on nav screen - is this because no DSP? I think i saw DSP before when turning on after upgrading version but i did a few other things after that)
Telephone will automatically appear on the nav screen if the teelphone control unit (TCU) in the trunk has power and is talking on the ibus. You don't have to do anything to the nav to make it appear, it just pops up if it is alive.
So check the power, ground and ibus connections on the TCU.

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2. Voice of Navigation
Using your wiring diagram, check that the voice cables are correctly hooked up to the VM (if old gen) or to the radio module (if new gen). You can test the voice output by changing the nav volume in settings, you should hear "louder" "quieter" etc

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3. DSP for amp and sub. currently not hooked up. installer said it was missing the parts on my loom.
If your loom was a non-DSP loom, then your DSP won't work until you change the loom. DSP is cable differently and has 3 x connectors to the amplifier, non-DSP has 2 x connectors. Again, if DSP exists and is alive and taling, it automatically appears on the nav menu.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:35 AM
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OK - here are some pics from the install.










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Now that looks like you had lots of fun :-)
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:40 PM
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Now that looks like you had lots of fun :-)
Yeah - Paid someone to do it. LOL. Good thing to because I realized I couldn't have. I wish i would have spent more time figuring out what the harness was i was buying. I read all this info after - not for lack of looking.. just happened that way.

So DSP was working I'm sure I saw it on the Nav menu. Not sure how - and if this is the DSP harness but I'll be in the trunk tonight and i'll see if i can take some pictures so you can help me out.. cuz i'm sure you can LOL.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:37 PM
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Holy crap! Nice end result though, congrats!
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:50 PM
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Thanks! I popped the trunk and got in there again tonight. I tried to connect the bluetooth module but no luck - power wouldn't come on when connected. I think the black connector that fit the module was actually for the amp though. I'm living the nightmare you told me i would Meister LOL - retrofit harness.. should have.. should have.

So I updated my radio today and my sirius that was working before with my business CD isn't working. Do i need a different unit? The seller said the modules he sells are all sirius and ipod / aux compatible. This module was dated 03 build date and labeled Harmon / Becker audio group.

Thoughts?

1. bluetooth still not working.

2. Sirius module not working after upgrading the BM53 module.

3. The amp / sub, thinking of going aftermarket.. I was never really impressed with DSP and being able to set things so i might not make it a major issue. Thinking aftermarket amp/sub like others have done.

help with #1 and #2 anyone? Info on what anyone knows about sirius module and nav.


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Old 04-27-2009, 11:05 PM
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Hey don't beat yourself up. The real fun will come when the lease ends and you have to return the car to stock!

2. I don't recall which radios were Sirius compatible, but an 03 production just might not be. Do you have the p/n of it so that we can check?
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