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Back in the days of the American revolution, the entire revolution was won by an army of around 3500. There were actually more Americans fighting on the side of the British -- around 8000. In 1917, the Russian revolution was won with a fighting force of a couple of thousand. And in the 1950s, the Cuban revolution was won with a tiny force of a couple of hundred. What made these revolutions successful was not the numbers or a superior fighting force, but the support among the general population for change. The problem in today's world is that we now have radio, television -- a very powerful media. So such revolutionaries or "freedom fighters" are often demonized by the establishment and called "terrorists". As a result, even if the public is very dissatisfied with their government, they are unlikely to support such revolutionary movements. Governments have the ability to control thought through propoganda -- something that was much more difficult in the past. In today's world Washington, Jefferson and Franklin would have been rounded up and sent to a Guantanamo-like prison, with the approval of the public. Sad, but true. :tsk: |
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Extremely Sad indeed; Absolutely true. |
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hmmmmmmmmmmmm can you say USSR? I don't think so my friend. Apartheid. I don't think so my friend. just wait. China about 2020. It has begun. |
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media=information. information=power. power=enlightenment. The problem is that YOU CANNOT ENLIGHTEN THOSE THAT CHOOSE NOT BE ENLIGHTENED. Case in point is this discussion. What a bunch of crap. You think the MEDIA controls everything? I am for the war. Most people (and the media) against it. I am for Israel. Most people (and the media) against it because of humanitarian reasons. Yet, how funny that: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1820193.shtml House Passes Pro-Israel Resolution Lawmakers Vote 410-8 To Support Israel's Military Campaign In Lebanon -------------------------------------------------------------------- hmmm. You think the enlightened ones in Washington care what the media thinks? Or maybe they know something you all don't. hmmmmmmmm. |
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and don't think for a minute this isn't related to nuclear power issues in Iran. please please please for the love of yourselves, start thinking on a higher plane if you can. why do syria and iran support Hezbollah? why did the UN just pass the 30 Aug resolution? just exactly what do you think is going on over there? pps why the FUCK do you think Iran needs nuclear weapons IF they control a vast amount of the world's oil? To use on their own or nearby soil? the problem that has happened is that we have stopped darwinian selection and natural evolution. many of the opinions here are a product of socialist states that breed "followers" and "pacifists". let me copy paste for those of you 'enlightened ones': "These are the times that try men's' souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; bur that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny.....is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph." Thomas Paine, Intro to the The Crisis, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." Thomas Paine "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine, 1776 Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing. Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791 If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 Everything that is right or reasonable pleads for separation. The blood of the slain, the weeping voice of nature cries, 'tis time to part. Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776 What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "If this be treason, make the most of it." Patrick Henry, n.d. "The distinctions between Virginians, Pennsylvanians, New Yorkers, New Englanders are no more. I AM NOT A VIRGINIAN, BUT AN AMERICAN!" Patrick Henry, n.d. "I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death." Patrick Henry, n.d. "The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable; and let it come! I repeat, Sir, let it come!" Patrick Henry "They tell us Sir, that we are weak -- unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature has placed in our power." Patrick Henry "Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Beside, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of Nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us." Patrick Henry The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Convention, 1775 Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Convention, 1775 Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings -- give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else! Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778 I believe a time will come when an opportunity will be offered to abolish this lamentable evil. Everything we do is to improve it, if it happens in our day; if not, let us transmit to our descendants, together with our slaves, a pity for their unhappy lot and an abhorrence of slavery. Patrick Henry on slavery in a letter to Robert Pleasants, January 18, 1773 Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined. Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778 If you speak of solid information and sound judgement, Colonel Washington is, unquestionably the greatest man on that floor. Patrick Henry, about George Washington, 1775 Independence forever. John Adams' last public words as a toast for the celebration of the fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If 'Thou shalt not covet' and 'Thou shalt not steal' were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society before it can be civilized or made free. John Adams, A Defense of the American Constitutions, 1787 Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker. But if we had not, our fathers have earned and bought it for us, at the expense of their ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood. John Adams, A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765 Democracy will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure, and every one of these will soon mould itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few. John Adams, An Essay on Man's Lust for Power, 1763 Children should be educated and instructed in the principles of freedom. John Adams, Defense of the Constitutions, 1787 It should be your care, therefore, and mine, to elevate the minds of our children and exalt their courage; to accelerate and animate their industry and activity; to excite in them an habitual contempt of meanness, abhorrence of injustice and inhumanity, and an ambition to excel in every capacity, faculty, and virtue. If we suffer their minds to grovel and creep in infancy, they will grovel all their lives. John Adams, Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1756 Let the pulpit resound with the doctrine and sentiments of religious liberty. Let us hear of the dignity of man's nature, and the noble rank he holds among the works of God... Let it be known that British liberties are not the grants of princes and parliaments. John Adams, Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765 "Yesterday the greatest question was decided... and a greater question perhaps never was nor will be decided among men. A resolution was passed without one dissenting colony, that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent states." John Adams, Letter to his wife, Abigail Adams, July 3, 1776 "Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people . . . . This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution." John Adams, 1818 "I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy." John Adams "Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker. But if we had not, our fathers have earned and bought it for us, at the expense of their ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood." John Adams, 1765 "Let justice be done though the heavens should fall." John Adams in a letter in 1777 . . .who have a right, from the frame of their nature, to knowledge, as their great Creator, who does nothing in vain, has given them understandings, and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge; I mean, of the characters and conduct of their rulers. John Adams, Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765 Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. John Adams, in Defense of the British Soldiers on trial for the Boston Massacre, 1770 But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. John Adams, letter to Abigail Adams, 1775 I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain. John Adams, letter to Abigail Adams, 1780 It has ever been my hobby-horse to see rising in America an empire of liberty, and a prospect of two or three hundred millions of freemen, without one noble or one king among them. You say it is impossible. If I should agree with you in this, I would still say, let us try the experiment, and preserve our equality as long as we can. John Adams, letter to Count Sarsfield, February 3, 1786 Let justice be done though the heavens should fall. John Adams, letter to Elbridge Gerry, December 5, 1777 Men must be ready, they must pride themselves and be happy to sacrifice their private pleasures, passions and interests, nay, their private friendships and dearest connections, when they stand in competition with the rights of society. John Adams, letter to Mercy Warren, April 16, 1776 The dons, the bashaws, the grandees, the patricians, the sachems, the nabobs, call them by what names you please, sigh and groan and fret, and sometimes stamp and foam and curse, but all in vain. The decree is gone forth, and it cannot be recalled, that a more equal liberty than has prevailed in other parts of the earth must be established in America. John Adams, letter to Patrick Henry, June 3, 1776 Objects of the most stupendous magnitude, and measure in which the lives and liberties of millions yet unborn are intimately interested, are now before us. We are in the very midst of a revolution the most complete, unexpected and remarkable of any in the history of nations. John Adams, letter to William Cushing, June 9, 1776 They define a republic to be a government of laws, and not of men. John Adams, Nocangul No. 7, 1775 The committee met, discussed the subject, [of the Declaration of Independence] and then appointed Mr. Jefferson and me to make the draught, I suppose because we were the two first on the list. The subcommittee met. Jefferson proposed to me to make the draught. Adams: I will not. Jefferson: You should do it. Adams: Oh! no. Jefferson: Why will you not? You ought to do it. Adams: I will not. Jefferson: Why? Adams: Reasons enough. Jefferson: What can be your reasons? Adams: Reason first -- You are a Virginian, and a Virginian ought to appear at the head of this business. Reason second -- I am obnoxious, suspected and unpopular. You are very much otherwise. Reason third -- You can write ten times better than I can. Jefferson: Well if you are decided, I will do as well as I can. Adams: Very well. When you have drawn it up, we will have a meeting. John Adams, on the drafting of the Declaration of Independence If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. John Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772 Human nature itself is evermore an advocate for liberty. There is also in human nature a resentment of injury, and indignation against wrong. A love of truth and a veneration of virtue. These amiable passions, are the "latent spark" ... If the people are capable of understanding, seeing and feeling the differences between true and false, right and wrong, virtue and vice, to what better principle can the friends of mankind apply than to the sense of this difference. John Adams, the Novanglus, 1775 [J]udges, therefore, should be always men of learning and experience in the laws, of exemplary morals, great patience, calmness, coolness, and attention. Their minds should not be distracted with jarring interests; they should not be dependent upon any man, or body of men. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 [J]udges, therefore, should be always men of learning and experience in the laws, of exemplary morals, great patience, calmness, coolness, and attention. Their minds should not be distracted with jarring interests; they should not be dependent upon any man, or body of men. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 A constitution founded on these principles introduces knowledge among the people, and inspires them with a conscious dignity becoming freemen; a general emulation takes place, which causes good humor, sociability, good manners, and good morals to be general. That elevation of sentiment inspired by such a government, makes the common people brave and enterprising. That ambition which is inspired by it makes them sober, industrious, and frugal. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 As good government is an empire of laws, how shall your laws be made? In a large society, inhabiting an extensive country, it is impossible that the whole should assemble to make laws. The first necessary step, then, is to depute power from the many to a few of the most wise and good. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 Each individual of the society has a right to be protected by it in the enjoyment of his life, liberty, and property, according to standing laws. He is obliged, consequently, to contribute his share to the expense of this protection; and to give his personal service, or an equivalent, when necessary. But no part of the property of any individual can, with justice, be taken from him, or applied to public uses, without his own consent, or that of the representative body of the people. In fine, the people of this commonwealth are not controllable by any other laws than those to which their constitutional representative body have given their consent. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 Fear is the foundation of most governments; but it is so sordid and brutal a passion, and renders men in whose breasts it predominates so stupid and miserable, that Americans will not be likely to approve of any political institution which is founded on it. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 That, as a republic is the best of governments, so that particular arrangements of the powers of society, or, in other words, that form of government which is best contrived to secure an impartial and exact execution of the laws, is the best of republics. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 The dignity and stability of government in all its branches, the morals of the people, and every blessing of society depend so much upon an upright and skillful administration of justice, that the judicial power ought to be distinct from both the legislative and executive, and independent upon both, that so it may be a check upon both, and both should be checks upon that. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest numbers of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best. John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776 I have accepted a seat in the [Massachusetts] House of Representatives, and thereby have consented to my own ruin, to your ruin, and the ruin of our children. I give you this warning, that you may prepare your mind for your fate. John Adams, to Abigail Adams, 1770 AND IF YOU STOPPED DRINKING THE BEER AND LEARNED ABOUT THE MAN: Samuel Adams"What a glorious morning for America!" Samuel Adams, When the first shots were fired at Concord and Lexington, 1776 "Driven from every other corner of the earth, freedom of thought and the right of private judgment in the matters of conscience direct their course to this happy country as the last asylum." Samuel Adams, Speech, 1776 "A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader." Samuel Adams, 1779 Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffusd and Virtue is preservd. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauchd in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, 1775 Nothing is more essential to the establishment of manners in a State than that all persons employed in places of power and trust must be men of unexceptionable characters. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, 1775 The public cannot be too curious concerning the characters of public men. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, 1775 Our unalterable resolution would be to be free. They have attempted to subdue us by force, but God be praised! in vain. Their arts may be more dangerous then their arms. Let us then renounce all treaty with them upon any score but that of total separation, and under God trust our cause to our swords. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, April 16, 1776 A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779 -------------------------- so to recap. Those of you who know so little of Liberty, who abide in the Freedoms that you enjoy yet do not Respect, will one day lose their spirit, their lives, their very soul, for not understanding the Enlightenment our forefathers had, and have brought, upon this Great Nation, and the Importance in which we Fight. You will weep and gnash your teeth when the Enemy steals your Liberty and Freedom because of your Pride and Prejudice. What will you do when the Thief comes in the Night? Will you stand up and defend your Freedom? Or will you whimper in your Cowardice? Will you ask and demand help from Us? Beware, your cries may fall on deaf ears. Freedom belongs to those who deserve it. Those who deserve it die fighting for what is Right. Not hiding amongst the women, the children, the old and the sick; but out in Front where Everyone can see who and what it is they are Fighting for. Cowards are those who hide in the cover of the women, the children, the old and the sick. Cowards are those who support them, directly or indirectly (sic: by using their keyboards). They will lose their Lives, for they have already lost their Souls. - me And I will stand there, laughing in sadness, when the reality of Reality deals with each of you! |
the only thing that the media does however is leave out all the important parts to make its point, for example they show the destruction in lebanon and cry about how it affects tourism and such, well they neglect to mention that travel to Israel is no picnic. their travel is out the window as well, heres the difference Israel is attacking NOT lebanon but the aladin and magic carpet gang namely hetzbolah, the reason lebanon is in this is because they support them. guess what if you aid and abet a criminal you are as guilty as he is and guess what when the police come knocking at your door dont be surprised. thats the case here. HOWEVER hezbolah's reasoning for bombing israel is to kill people, they are not going after military targets, they are not going after government agencies they are going after civilians on purpose to kill so that Israel says ok enough we've lost enough of our people. the magic carpet gang isnt caring about how many people die they just say o look you killed them NO NO NO we didnt kill them YOU killed them because you hide YOUR shit in their houses. but the media neglects to mention a lot of these facts the media shows only what benefits it, so screw that the media doesnt control shit except for narrow minded people who dont know how to look out of the box. do some research talk to some real live people sure not everyone in Israel supports the war much like not everyone here supports the war but guess what the ones that dont support that war were not affected by anything, after 9/11 the civil rights activists decided that what the government was doing with the survailance was wrong and they had no right to do it. if the govt has been allowed to do that same stuff earlier maybe some of this could have been avoided. yes Bush went to iraq for oil but you have to be silly to believe that sadam didnt have weapons capable of blowing Israel to bits and making a serious issue for the USA. just because it wasnt found doesnt mean it doesnt exist or didnt exist, just because it wasnt found in iraq doesnt mean it wasnt transported out doesnt mean it wasnt sold to the binladins and aladins, "A tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it. Does it make a sound?" much like that. go ahead use this msg to rebuttle but make it good
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I have become an expert copy-paster due to the lack of Enlightenment that abounds. Thank you all who have supported my efforts (that have required me to copy-paste to bring them Enlightenment). That is why all Men and Women are Created Equal. Unfortunately, some of them are more Equal than others, my friends. |
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