Yes, they marched across Western Europe with very little resistance.

What color is the sky in your world.

Its your problem becouse you put them in power and by doing so say you won.

That is our problem. After "completing" the military phase we went light speed to give them a chance for "democratic" election. It is like asking a toddler participate in elections. Not every society can make that switch that fast. Great multitude of political processes inside the coutry(without foreign influence) has to take place over many, many, many years and quite possibly generations for it to have an open mind towards democracy, monarchy, dictatorship.

Victors are not judged. But there is no imaginable way of US and its allies coming out of that country as Victorious as we were led to believe.

As far as their"impotent" government is concerned, thay are not very far from ours. When the greatest minds have no clue of what to to in Iraq, what can you expect of the government that is in the state of infacy with its people cutting each others throats by hundreds week in and week out.

History proved that for a foreing power to be succesful in a given country thay have to take everything from its people(land, rights, life). You have to have stomach strong enough for genocide or something close to it. If you do not do that every gallon of gasoline from that region that we'll be putting into our nice vehicles is gonna be stained by blood of thousands of troops and husdreds of thousands of civilians.

I might be going on a limb here, but I believe this a prelude to a mass military conflict that will involve lots and lots of countries in the region and the world.

So let's get out now, is that what you're saying?

Makes sense. You say we "pushed" them into democracy too fast, so let's just leave them swinging in the breeze. Very well thought-out and mature.

I've heard this over and over and it's simply BS. Iraq was a parlamentary dictatorship under Saddam. What it means is that there were elections and people voted for members of the parlament and Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds all held many positions in the parlament. So the people of Iraq know exactly what democracy is. The only difference now is that instead of Saddam as "president for life", the prime minister was chosen by the Parlament. The voting process for the people was the same, except perhaps with more choices than in the past.

This whole idea is probably the fault of our own media. Those pictures of the people with the purple paint on their fingers would make you think these people had never seen a ballot box before in their lives.

The issue here is that this country should not be a country and it never should have been. It should be 2 or 3 different countries. The British drew the borders this way to "divide and conquer" -- to keep infighting going on amongst the Iraqi people so as not to allow them to unify and kick the British out.

You've officially reached :confused: status. Have fun there. And once again....Afghanistan was not to get Osama......:loco:

I'd agree with that, I'm having a hard time understanding why this thread is trying to depict the Russian forces as this great thing that could have taken out Hitler all by itself.

OMG, I'll have to get tell all those dead WWII soldiers there wasn't any resistance. Eric, that comment was asinine. You're better then a xxx type war comment :thumbup: