You guys should move to a free state. We have room for a couple more down here in FL. ;)

Remember "Maryland, The Free State" W/E :rofl:

No kidding. My bro-in-law lives in FL......must be nice to carry a Glock .45 everywhere you go. And for all those that say "why". Well, his wife and son were almost car-jacked in a Walmart parking lot. Luckily, the wifey was smart enough to get in lock the doors and roll out. Who knows what could have happened if the guy had a weapon.

Please note that there has been an enormous increase in violent home invasions in England after the gun turn in, ie, home break-ins while homeowners are still at home

What anti-gun people and news media fail to mention is a gun is used 1.5-2.0 million times a year to PREVENT a crime

My pitch is the same for guns as it is for "pets", they are YOUR responsibility. And YOU are accountable if actions take place on your watch :thumbup:

Don't be afraid of personal accountability, it is a good thing :)

How DARE you spread that logic here! We won't hear it! (puts fingers in ears and goes LA LA LA LA LA)

My daddy (the government) will make things all better!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You are right, but unfortunately there are a lot of people who don't know what personal responsibility is. With a job where I go into homes on a daily basis I can tell you that I have seen more than one gun sitting on a table or nightstand in a home that appeared to have children. Same thing with people who drive around with kids in the car that are crawling up by the back window and not in a car seat or seatbelt. There are a lot of people who own guns who are just flat out incapable of being responsible. In an ideal world, everyone would put their guns in secure safes like you do, but that simply is not the case. I would bet that the percentage of guns that are locked in a safe to the ones that are laying around a house or in a drawer is closer than you think. In the last month, I have been in 3 houses with unsecured guns in clear view.

Not sure what you're getting at :dunno:

I'm around a TON of gun owners, I've only ever met one that actually had an unsecured weapon....one.

With the example you've given you have simply confirmed that legislation does nothing, so why more legislation :)

My point is that yeah it is your right to bear arms, but your right to bear arms is also putting guns in a lot of peoples hands who are incapable of doing so responsibly. That in turn is leading to these guns getting into the hands of others who should not own guns (i.e. guns being stolen and used in the streets). If that is the case then something needs to be done. Either making it way harder to legally purchase and own a gun, increasing the legal consequences if you commit a crime with a gun and even making a criminal charge to the owner if their gun was stolen and used in a crime. Maybe that will influence some people start locking up their guns in a decent safe like you do.

If legislation doesn't work, then other major steps should be considered such as reviewing the amendment to own guns and seeing if the original reason we have the right to bear arms is still relevant today. We are one of the countries with the highest gun death rates. Something has to be done, because what we are doing now is not working and the likelyhood of more guns being stolen and used in crimes are increasing right now with the record amount of guns being bought up as all of these people are not going lock theirs up like you do.

What we are doing in this country is clearly not working.

Don't get me wrong I agree with you that something has to be done. However, simply making more hoops for legal purchase is useless and only (only) effects citizens that for the most part are doing what they are suppose to.

Fact is this, you will never ever overturn the right to arms. Simply, the country wouldn't let you. So you have to come up with another thought process. As I said, make legislation that GROSSLY punishes negligence. Of course, I say the same thing with immigration. Stop chasing immigrants, start punishing the companies that hire them. As with both cases, start at the root cause.

Put people in JAIL for allowing their weapons to be used inappropriately. Trust me, you start locking parents up that let kids get their guns, watch how fast gun safes move off the shelf :) Now that said, if your gun is stolen and reported stolen immediately to the authorities, you are removed from that responsibility as long as the weapon was taken from a locked safe..robberies will happen.

That is because you probably associate with people who are capable of being responsible. I would imagine that you may go to a range or somehting as well where most people are responsible. I would be tthat people who frequent these establishments are typically very responsible about their gun ownership. However, many Americans are not like that.
For every person such as yourself who does the right thing, there are just as many if not more who are irresponsible with their gun ownership. That is the problem, not you in particular.