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primetime 07-28-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by StanF18 (Post 645209)
:iagree: Very interesting indeed...He probably didn't lose all his skills in 2 years time. But the question is: Did he lose enough mojo to put himself out of NFL "prime time" status?? My guess (and this is just a guess): Between the 2 years off AND the unrelenting mental and social condemnation he has been under, he will be just a shadow of his former self.

Its going to be interesting thats for sure...And all of this is still centered around his 40 time..Teams aren't looking at him because of his QB instincts..If he is anywhere close to what his 40 time used to be, that will show teams that he still possess great speed and can still create on the fly, or just rip a run 50 yards for a big play out of the pocket, etc..

If his 40 time isn't great..lets say around 4.5 or 4.6 or worse...thats gonna change things alot...Now teams looking at him will be much more skeptical and will look hard at his QB skills or whats left of them...Totally different scenario for vick if he can't get his speed back. I read that he has brought in a renown trainer to help him get back into shape. Lets see what happens.

primetime 07-28-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by satzinger (Post 645223)
Pittbulls are dogs he used in his dog fighting ring!
I hope one of them can get him and pay him back!
If you really still like this guy I feel sorry for you, unless you like torturing
animals and dog fighting, too!
It does not matter how good he was (and he was real good). It just
makes me mad thinking about that he did all this just a few miles from where i work!

Satz...i have a dog..I love dogs..No i dont torture them...Me having a dog has nothing to do with why I think Michael Vick deserves another chance. I hate to break it to you, but his hefty sentence is not because of the dog fighting, its because of the gambling. I don't condone his actions, I do believe he has paid his debt to society (2yrs federal prison) and i do believe he should be given 1 more chance.

Wagner 07-28-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Krimson X (Post 645206)
He was suspended well before the jail sentence.

Yes, people will pay to watch him play.

You made it sound as if he was suspended for two years, which is not true at all. He was suspended in August of 2007, he was in court a month earlier on charges. In November of 2007, he was in jail. I guess 90 days classifies as "well before".

Again, the NFL did nothing but follow the courts footsteps so to make it seem as if the NFL did something, like suspend him for 2 seasons, to Vick is 100% false.

Wagner 07-28-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by primetime (Post 645214)
Unfortunately for you....he's not going to be playing in the pittbull league? whatever that is...He'll be playing in the NFL..Have a nice day.:thumbup:

Not sure where he'd fit in. He is a running QB with a 2 step drop and then take-off. Maybe the Redskins, I'm SURE the Cowboys would be interested along with the Raiders and possibly some others. However, I'd doubt he'll start and will probably be converted to special teams. He wasn't the greatest QB when in his prime, even though he was paid that way and had 3 PB appearances. How many Superbowls was Vick in again?

Michael Vick

75 rating, Matt Ryan has a mid-80s, McNabb has a high-80s, Cutler mid-80s, Campbell mid-80s.....etc.....etc....

primetime 07-28-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wagner (Post 645236)
Not sure where he'd fit in. He is a running QB with a 2 step drop and then take-off. Maybe the Redskins, I'm SURE the Cowboys would be interested along with the Raiders and possibly some others. However, I'd doubt he'll start and will probably be converted to special teams. He wasn't the greatest QB when in his prime, even though he was paid that way and had 3 PB appearances. How many Superbowls was Vick in again?

Michael Vick

75 rating, Matt Ryan has a mid-80s, McNabb has a high-80s, Cutler mid-80s, Campbell mid-80s.....etc.....etc....

No he wont start..he'll be a back up..He definitely will not be converted to special teams..i don't know what you're thinking there...But typically, QB's don't play special teams so I hope you're kidding. He won't convert to another position either. BUT...when that starter gets hurt, or injured, or isn't playing well enough, and Vick is next in line, you can bet he'll be given his chance to prove himself. It'll happen. I agree with some of your teams that might show interest. The Cowboys seem logical since Jerry Jones loves giving people chances (see Pacman Jones) plus Romo must produce something of quality this season or his time is over. On top of that he gets injured on a regular basis. I believe Jacksonville may show some interest in Vick, as well as the Saints..

Wagner 07-28-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by primetime (Post 645245)
No he wont start..he'll be a back up..He definitely will not be converted to special teams..i don't know what you're thinking there...But typically, QB's don't play special teams so I hope you're kidding. He won't convert to another position either. BUT...when that starter gets hurt, or injured, or isn't playing well enough, and Vick is next in line, you can bet he'll be given his chance to prove himself. It'll happen. I agree with some of your teams that might show interest. The Cowboys seem logical since Jerry Jones loves giving people chances (see Pacman Jones) plus Romo must produce something of quality this season or his time is over. On top of that he gets injured on a regular basis. I belive jacksonville may show some interest in Vick, as well as the Saints..

He isn't going to be a QB, for long. Why would the Saints want Vick? Now that I think about it, go Buffalo Bills....TO loves Vick...so that should work out great.

primetime 07-28-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wagner (Post 645246)
He isn't going to be a QB. Why would the Saints want Vick?

He isn't going to be a QB? Whats he going to be? Saints would want him as a back up..Again, teams are looking at him as a back up and potential starter later if his abilities are sharp and his atheleticism is there.. Drue Brees isn't the most durable player in the league, he could get injured.

Wagner 07-28-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by primetime (Post 645247)
He isn't going to be a QB? Whats he going to be? Saints would want him as a back up..Again, teams are looking at him as a back up and potential starter later if his abilities are sharp and his atheleticism is there.. Drue Brees isn't the most durable player in the league, he could get injured.

Who wants that PETA heat for a backup?

primetime 07-28-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner (Post 645251)
Who wants that PETA heat for a backup?

Lol..Although what you're saying is probably true...We both know that there will be several teams interested, and one of those teams will sign him...

Wagner 07-28-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by primetime (Post 645252)
Lol..Although what you're saying is probably true...We both know that there will be several teams interested, and one of those teams will sign him...

Oh I have no doubt he'll get picked up...I do have severe doubts he'll actually play. Plus it will be interesting when he faces his bonus laden $1.5M contract coming off making 100M's....


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