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primetime 07-28-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner (Post 645253)
Oh I have no doubt he'll get picked up...I do have severe doubts he'll actually play. Plus it will be interesting when he faces his bonus laden $1.5M contract coming off making 100M's....

Yeah no doubt it'll be interesting to see his actual playing time and how that all pans out.. But I gotta believe at some point that he will get his shot. I mean there are absolutely horrendous QB's in the league that are starters, not to mention back ups. (See Kansas City Chiefs, every damn QB on the roster before we signed Matt Cassell and gave him top of the line $$ who I'm still not sold on)

FSETH 07-28-2009 01:14 PM

I think he will be used primarily at a position other than QB. He was never a good QB, but he is an athlete. I can see him coming in as a WR, RB or as some sort of gimmick QB a few times a game for a wildcat play or something like that. He was never a good passer and sitting in jail for 2 years couldn't have helped. Plus he would have to get back into the mindset of running an offense and knowing every play in the teams book. I would be surprised if he ended up being a starting QB for any significant period of time.

Krimson X 07-28-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner (Post 645235)
You made it sound as if he was suspended for two years, which is not true at all. He was suspended in August of 2007, he was in court a month earlier on charges. In November of 2007, he was in jail. I guess 90 days classifies as "well before".

Again, the NFL did nothing but follow the courts footsteps so to make it seem as if the NFL did something, like suspend him for 2 seasons, to Vick is 100% false.

He didn't play in 2007 or 2008. 1+1=2. A suspension is a suspension. That is why they call it a reinstatement.

Krimson X 07-28-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by primetime (Post 645245)
No he wont start..he'll be a back up..He definitely will not be converted to special teams..i don't know what you're thinking there...But typically, QB's don't play special teams so I hope you're kidding. He won't convert to another position either. BUT...when that starter gets hurt, or injured, or isn't playing well enough, and Vick is next in line, you can bet he'll be given his chance to prove himself. It'll happen. I agree with some of your teams that might show interest. The Cowboys seem logical since Jerry Jones loves giving people chances (see Pacman Jones) plus Romo must produce something of quality this season or his time is over. On top of that he gets injured on a regular basis. I believe Jacksonville may show some interest in Vick, as well as the Saints..

Vick would be a "Red Zone" option. Like Tim Tebow in his freshman year.

Wagner 07-28-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Krimson X (Post 645332)
He didn't play in 2007 or 2008. 1+1=2. A suspension is a suspension. That is why they call it a reinstatement.

Not really, but nice bending of the context. Exactly how would he play in the NFL when in jail? Again, the NFL did nothing to him...so since a Federal imprisonment isn't justification for removal from duty for more than 3 months...Stallworth, and the Bengals should be in good shape :) It's called a reinstatement because he was removed for 3 months....

FSETH 07-28-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Krimson X (Post 645332)
He didn't play in 2007 or 2008. 1+1=2. A suspension is a suspension. That is why they call it a reinstatement.

I agree. The league suspended him because of his actions. The suspension just ran simultaneoulsy with the prison sentence.

Now, if the league wants to suspend him further or ban him for life, that is their right as well. There are plenty of companies that wont hire a felon. Why should the NFL be any different?

primetime 07-28-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FSETH (Post 645350)
Now, if the league wants to suspend him further or ban him for life, that is their right as well. There are plenty of companies that wont hire a felon. Why should the NFL be any different?

Lets not go backwards now.. Vick's been re-instated..End of story. He'll be cleared to play fully, no later then week 6, quite possibly much sooner then that once Goodell re-evaluates when week 1 gets near.. Whether he actually gets on the field is another story...

primetime 07-28-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Krimson X (Post 645334)
Vick would be a "Red Zone" option. Like Tim Tebow in his freshman year.

Could be...it'll be interesting to see..

realchef 07-30-2009 12:18 AM

Whatchou be talkin' about NFL??
 
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BARK!!! If you ask me......

The NFL allowing him to play is akin to harboring a fugitive.

The depth of his crimes extends beyond fighting. Those animals were abused in every facet of their life. From the emotional terror, physical human abuse all the way the 'rape stands' not tomention the actual fights.

His and the other's involved depravity and complete disrespect for innocent life is astounding. He and his cohorts had turned the focus of the entire Vick compound into the prodcution and sport of fight dogs. They were in deep, deliberately and for profit.

If the NFL were operating with a moral compass they would display him compensating in an appropriate fashion. Community service directly relating to the animals and him growing emotionally. Some actually sincere public statement where he can prove cognizance of the crime and how he has changed. (Show that he actually understands why it was wrong beyond legal terms.) That you, Joe Public, shouldn't do it.

But the NFL has become another profit first operation. Greed is driving their decisions. They have made no effort to go past the superficial. Doing the morally correct thing is not the profitable choice. This is an opportunity to really set a standard and make a great statement. Instead, they are rolling the dice that there will be an increase in overall revenue with him playing vs not playing. It's disgusting and is hopefully a harbinger of their doom.

The NFL is an antiquated, overpaid bastien of primadonna's and spoiled millionaires. Once they had standards that extended into the American communities. Once.

Sincerely another disposabal dog,

Knuckles

explicitdwk 07-30-2009 12:37 AM

..someone got lucky


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