How
 

I dont understand the instructions to switch the voice off.
Is this the only way or is Nomad on the case ?

Maybe somone can enlighten us..

Uppdate.
I reinstalled os, worked just fine for about a week (same as first time) and now sometimes working for a while sometimes rebooting all the time.
Sometimes eaven tv tuner jumps in instead of MK IV.

Will make new os with 2,7 and post the progres

Now to answer som questions
i used navtwek 2,6 navspeek 1
i have 21000 pois
i am in north eu (sweden)
i am using TMC
i use 100m scale
i use 2009.1 DVD map (moded to fit DVD-R)

Navtwek 2.7 just crashes on me i menaged to replace some icons but it just chrashes now, when i try to save....
have no idea what is wrong...
will try to load as it is now and se how the mk IV behaves

I had the same problem with saving the navboot file by Navtweak 2.7 after the inserting the icons...... :dunno: ... even after the installation of last GTK libraries.....

Try to mod Navboot before Pach.

;)

I modded my navboot first with splash, pointers and sky, then icon #216 (as this was known to be good, as it worked before), then did the patch.

Hey Everybody,

Have anyone de code for the beeps and pause and attention for de NL version?
Thanks

Nomad wrote:
B: Voice modification
1. Extract voice file from V_2/Voices/0506 (gb_f.csf for english)
2. Edit voice phrases #8 #9 using NavSpeak utility, for example: 322,323,88,250,191 (high beep, low beep, a pause, attention, ahead)
3. Put modified voice file file back to CD image

That is exactly what i did, i suspect that it has to do with poison part that inserts the pois into the database.

I made new map file, and everything is working for now, will se how long it holds this time :)

I am using EU 2009.1 moded to fit on DVD

In navbot i have changed,
Collors, of maps, and screen
Custom logo
Custom sky
Custom language (replaced english lines)

I have also loaded a swedish voice file instead of english

Load your NL file into navspeek and listen to all the phrases and you will find what you are looking for

Phrase 8 and 9 usualy already have pause in them so that number is pause

Oké, I do it:)

Here in Portugal I did it ;)

YouTube - VIDEO0006

I persevered and finally got this working...very pleased with it :D

With regard to the Camera POI's is POI Plaza the best place to get them as I have a couple of issues with them. It goes off every day I drive down my road for a camera that doesn't exist which is a little annoying.

Is there anywhere else I can get a good up to date file either free or paid for?

Also, am I correct in assuming the sound activates on distance and is not directional? It sometimes goes off when driving 'near' to a camera but on a completely different road.

Great effort though, make the BMW Nav Really useful :thumbup:

Problem to open DB files with poison
 

Hello gentlemen !
Congratulations for the job that has been done to improve our NAV !
Speed cameras are so numbered in France !
Up to now, I used the "old method" to implement speed camera in my nav (by adding new POI, and edition of relevant files).
I would like of course to work as it is proposed in this post, with addition of sound.
Unfortunatly, even after reviewing the complete 22 pages, I still not be able to open DB files with poison, I've always the same result "Unable to open database files".
I've tried with different versions of GTK (currently 2.14), but always the same result.
I've tried with DVD High 2009-01, also with previous versions 2008-2 and 2007-2 and even replay the complete sequence on another computer, but always unsuccessfully.
I've copied the original DB directory (with the 4 files as mentioned in the beginning of the subject) under GTK/bin with poison program as it was proposed in different posts, but it's the same.
Any idea to explain what can be done to solve my problem ?
Could the program have any restriction while running under windows in french language (dot point configured in control panel)?
Thanks in advance !

Sorry for the poor quality of my precedent pictures !

If using DVD based database: Copy Bibliography file and the whole DB directory to a new directory in your hard disk. Modify attributes of all files thus copied to "non read only". Then proceed with PoiSon in the normal way. Direct PoiSon to load database from your new directory (where you just copied the Bibliography file).
Hope this helps.

You have to put DB_0 and DB_1 in a folder named DB (the same layout you have in your original DVD).

Map edition OK
 

Thanks for your support, I finally succeeded to edit map files (only Pb of files attributes) !
It was OK at the beginning, but when I reinstalled correct version of GTK and re-extract DB directory, I forgot to modify once more "non read only" !
Let's go ahead on the next steps. I hope I'll be more efficient !

Remove camera from the database manually, use something like googlemaps and similar and locate the X,Y co-ordinates and then search the DB and remove.

Pocketgpsworld.

Correct, it's a bubble round the car, anything insider the bubble will trigger the alert (even if it's on the wrong road).

Indeed.

My rebooting issues are definitly TMC related, so is it the map or navbot ?

SOUNDS
 

can you help me i can,t seem to find any of the files you are talking about IE the nav boot etc i have V32 high

I Use:
21
7
269-9

its mean: Ping Opgelet

in V32

In the ISO image of the software disk, open the folder :

\V_2\RR\101\BMWC01S\app_sw

Andyc

You copy the post from Nomad in your post, read it!!!

Hi , New member wants to say thanks to nomad and ccfj1 (Used the V31 FW disk) for all the work they have done.

Took a few hours but all up and running now.I,m well impressed.

Thanks a million :thumbup:

Hi @ all,
I'm from Germany and I have the Business Nav. (small just with arrows) and I wanted to ask if its possible to change the patch.exe so that it will work with the monochrome Nav. too?

I think the other things should be the same, just the patch.exe have to be edited...

As far as I know the original patch.exe is using the navboot file from the folder BMWC01S, so I think the folder BMWM01S is right for my Nav. (C for Color, M for Monochrome)...

Thanks

Ganxxta: you need to contact and ask Nomad. He would need to write a different patch to patch the mono navboot file.

Thanks, I just wrote him a pm...

Hi Folks,
Have just been making new 2009_1 disk with latest (March) speed cams. The Feb version has been working fine (thanks again, Nomad). Used UltraIso at minimum (4x) speed. Disk was not recognised so I made another which was also not recognised. Made another using ImgBurn at minimum (1x) speed and it worked.

Hi everybody, outstanding job. I am following the italian X3 forum expecially about the V32 poison and I have a couple of questions about it.
It seems "we" are stucked on some bugs of the V32 POISON.
I mean:
1. you MUST reselect the POI Icons if you switch off the engine/navigator;
2. having the possibility to switch off the vocal warning for the POI you have to accept some indications on the display in another language (probably this is due to the fact that the language change is just a cheat using two files of the same language one with the warning and the other one without);
3. the system gives warning about all the POIs in the vicinity and not ONLY of the ones in your route.
So I am wondering if these bugs are still there or any solution has been developed by anyone there in the states...thanks Folks!! :rolleyes:

1. is likely a bug, hopefully it can be fixed.
2. you can disable the sounds by setting a destination an turning instructions off.
3. that's the way it works, unliky to be much iprovement IMO.

Thanks a lot for your clarification

Sorry, how can I turn "instructions off" ?

First select a destination. Then either :

- press the right rotary controler, then on the 'Instruction' menu option press and hold the controler, a red line will appear through the speaker symbol on the left.

- if you have VR, say "Instruction Off".

Fine, very easy thanks a lot

Angelych I am surprised by your question!!!
It is well known in our italian forum as well!!!
The trick is just deselect the speaker....that's it. So you are NOT actually switching off the instructions, but switching off the loudspeaker.

there is a little problem with this solution: if you are follow instructions to reach a place, you'll not hear neither these...

Furthermore, would you please to say me where it has been talked about this tip in our forum? http://www.bmwpassion.com/forum/imag...eusa_think.gif

e93 help
 

Guys, it worked fine in my X5 e53, however I've just changed my car, will it work in an e93?

Many thanks

No. E93 does not have a Mk4. It has the newer generation iDrive nav. Software can only be updated via diagnostic interface.

Big HELLO from Germany!

I have used the modded OS image from ccfj1 above and installed it successfully on my Mk IV DVD Nav System, and then followed nomads instructions from point E owards for adding POIs and burning a new DVD.

All seemed to work ok, I`m seeing the POI`s in map but no sound is coming. Am I missing something obvious, or is there anything else I can check?
:)

Many thanks.

Did you set the phrases in your desired language?

Some people only change the phrase in one language and not others.
Eg: if ccfj1 only altered the English voice file, and left German untouched, you won't hear anything on a nav set to German

ccfj1: Please ensure all voice files of all languages on the OS disc are modified accordingly.

hello friends

1 ) where i found good tutorial for made it ?

2 ) i use DVD -R philips but no work, what is better mark ?

3 ) i can deleted other language without trouble, because if not i need DVD DL

thank you :thumbup:

Thanks Nomad!!

Works for German speaking people too :D

YouTube - BMW MK4 POI Meldung

Hello Bremex I have a little problem when I try to replace the language with Navtweak 2.7 , I can replace english texts by french text and save's navboot. But after if I want to open the new navboot the software crash!!!!

Do you know why??????

That's amazing what you did manormachine :thumbup:

YouTube - BMW MK4 Nachtansicht Nightview

http://s6b.directupload.net/images/090414/79yogulr.jpg

http://s1b.directupload.net/images/090415/idsii783.jpg

http://s8b.directupload.net/images/090415/4l9jcstg.jpg

Hi manormachine, Welcome to the forum,

Nice work.

I take it that you can switch between the 2 colours (for day and night) instead of blue and brown.

Any chance of making the modded night image available as a download?

thanks

not yet.......:popcorn:

lol, Stop teasing my friend... I've been looking at doing this for some time, but wasn't quite sure where to start, any pointers would be a great help :)

I keep looking at the night mode and love the look, well done :)

Actually it looks like this......


http://s2b.directupload.net/images/0...p/wihms4cx.jpg

http://s2b.directupload.net/images/090421/aoej3acj.jpg

http://s2b.directupload.net/images/090421/a43ifntr.jpg

http://s8b.directupload.net/images/090421/82fu2pgs.jpg

Very Cool :)

iPod? whats that

come on....stop it.....you have no idea what an iPod is? http://www.apple.com/itunes/

lol, I know what an Ipod is, I have 2 in the car, 1 for Intravee, and 1 for movies/videos playback, see here; YouTube - iPod Intravee II and Ipod video playback on a BMW e46 Nav Screen

I'm just wondering how you have it on the main menu?

My guess would be a renamed DSP option.

wrong guess...I renamed......"code"

Why? Presumably it still executes the 'Code' option, unless you've done some serious modifications to the code as well as the colour/text scheme.

Hello,

i can´t import points. i try to import .asc or .txt files, but nothing happens.

Can anybody help me?

Use a .csv file they import straight in then :)

don´t work too :confused:

Could be this (from earlier post)

Xoutpost.com - View Single Post - POISoN

Yes, db has been loaded, i can write points, but not import. If i open the .asc or .csv nothing happens

http://bayimg.com/image/iapjgaabd.jpg

Thanks, it was!! :beerchug::beerchug:

cz_f.csf
 

Hi, do you know if its posible anywhere download cz_f.csf, please?

Can someboy help me with change of distance voice attention before camera?

They should be availible here:
VDO Dayton Downloads - Monitor Navigation - Software Updates & Applications

Download and open up the software and you will find the latest availible voice files.

BR//Tobmag

If I wanted to update the GB voice to the new 610 voice (in the VDO update above), is it just as easy as swapping the relevant *.csf file, or do you have to also swap the voice.lst file and put them in a folder called 0610, and swap the lng_rel.tbl file?

This then gets me thinking, wouldn't it be cool if we could update the Mkiv's with the VDO firmware.


Justin

You an do either/or. Simply overwrite the csf file or add a new directory with the new voice files.

The voice file versions are stored in the M:\V_2\Voices\0506\voice.lst file and also in the M:\V_2\RR\0101\BMWC01S\lng_rel.tbl file

eg: lng_rel looks like this:
09100506Voices/0506/


You cannot load VDO software on the BMW OEM unit - the boot mode coding prevents this from happening.

Hi,

I need your help

I was able to download the files and make gtk work

my problem is that I cannot take an image of my navigation cd.

whenever I try to take an image, it gives me read error message.

I'm able to access to the cd and browse the folders and files.

Is the CD protected some how?

Hi Tobmag, I've downloaded the new voice files and the GB (F) is a lot better (smoother and less robotic) than the older one but quite a bit bigger and there seems to be more entries, have you loaded them yourself? and if so any problems. (I've loaded it as my second language and have tried it briefly, but that's by no means a complete test).

Cheers mate

Hi ccfj1.

Yes im using the swedish voice file instead of the French, the thing is that the VR and IKE also starts to speak French :-).

Guess I need to recode the nav unit to 3xEng instead.

I have had no problems with it at all otherwise.

BR//Tobmag

Not sure if that will work (as expected), I tried this and it loaded the same file for all 3 languages, (the modded one), so was no good for me.

What I did was load USA (F) as my 2nd (so the TV and SES are in English, text and voice), and then replaced all the US text for UK, and renamed the US voice file for an unmoded GB(F), this has worked, all in GB (F) English voice and text (Nav, TV and VR-SES), result.

I've used the new updated GB(F) file for the 2nd and it is working as expected so I may mod and add the alert and use that for the 1st as well.

Nice to hear mate.

Is it possible for this mod to work on idrive professional nav systems to give voice alerts on approaching speed cams?

I finally took an image of DVD using Mac.

I have another issue. My DVD (data size 70mb only) do not have the same contents as I see in the attached pictures. I don't see any voice or bmw directories, even no navboot file or directory.

I have X5 e70 2009 with professional navigation.

The short answer is no, i-drive is a dealer only update.

then you are looking in the wrong file, and something is wrong there, 70Mb on a dvd??. did you download it? also like jackass above POISon does not work on the i-drive with a PRO map disc.

That what was strange for me, 70mb in a DVD. I did not download it, it is my original DVD from the dealor.

OK, that mean I cannot do any change in i-drive pro map disc?? :(

Just noticed where you are from, maybe there are not a lot of roads, that would explain it.

No, you would need to go to the dealer, and I doubt that they will be able to enable anything TBH, most dealers are hopeless when you ask them something out of the ordinary.

The best you can do is a modded map disc that has extra POI's for the cameras, but no alerts.

Yes you are right, we don't have lot of roads cause small country

I found this website that explain how to do it for i-drive navigation maps
Adding Speed Camera POI to your BMW Professional NAV DVD

This could be helpfull.

Thanks for your cooperation

That should do it :)

But not with the voice alerts???

Correct

I have mounted the image to Alcahol120 and I have successfuly updated the db files using POISon now I'm trying to copy the files back to the ISO and I get the following error: Cannot copy db_0:Files on this CD-Rom drive are read only. You cannot copy or move files over to this CD-ROM drive.

Please help!

Don't use a disc mounter to load the image, use something like ultraiso or migiciso, you can then drag and drop *any* file to and from the open image.

You're an absolute superstar CCFJ1! It worked with utraiso thanks. Also a big thanks for all your hard work on the firmware update too.
PS nice coupe, similar colour to my M3 (mystic blue)

Nice, I love my topaz blue and mystic is very nice as well :) Glad you have it working mate.

Check your pm mate

Absolutely Great work! Thank you very much!!!
Works fine on my Cooper S mini with MK IV

If someone need the German Phrases:
438,437,127,350,335 means: Deep Beep, High Beep, Pause, Attention, in Front of you
In german: Tiefer leiser Piepton, hoher Piepton, Pause, Achtung, vor Ihnen

No bibliogr file on DVD 2009-2
 

Hello, i would like to patch my new 2009-2 DVD and allready have copied the db folder and it's content to my harddrive. But there is no bibliogr file on this DVD.

When selecting the db folder with poison i get the error message "unable to open database files".

What can i do to work with my dvd 2009-2?


Best regards
Andreas

To imola
Did you use UltraISO?

Yes but i think this file is not there. Not in root dir and not in any of the subfolders. Attached the root dir of the dvd.


http://www.lara-s.com/Unbenannt.jpg

Image on the picture is seemed not from 2009-2 DVD

Damn! I took a look at my DVD and the Cover. It seems i bought the professional instead of the high nav software dvd :(

That's stupid, will try to change tomorrow for the correct version.
Don't mind about my question about 2009-2 here but thank you for trying to help me.

Hey guys, thanks for all the great work.
One thing is unclear to me: If I want to add Speedcams and say Camping sites as POIs and add voice prompt is there any way to have the voice prompt only for the Speedcams? I don't want to go camping and hear the voice "ding-ding, caution ahead" or whatever.
Thanks

The sound warning is only for the permanent POI, not for the user-selectable POIs

So the warning only sounds for speed cameras.

Any other POI can also be displayed at the same time with no sound warning

Yes..hope they change it!:D
anyway, after that why don't you share your high2009.2 dvd with us?

thank you !!!

Maybe :)
 

Let me see if i'll be able to change my 2009-2 pro to the needed 2009-2 high DVD :) If yes, we will find a way to share ;)

super...Vielen Danke!!! if you need we can "help you with expenses"...

I'm afraid I don't quite understand.
What do you mean by "permanent" POIs and user-selectable?
Do you select "set" of POIs somehow in the menus?

You're saying that if I edit the map files and import to them speed cameras and camping sites POIs, it will sound the warning only for speed cameras?
How does the system distinguish which one of these 2 is permanent?

The OS shows a permanent POI always on the screen.
In the standard OS, this POI is the "city centre" and appears as a bullseye symbol.

On the patched OS, the permanent POI changes to the Military Bases POI, and then you edit the Military Base POI-image to a camera image, and load the cameras as "military bases" on the map database. They then appear on-screen with the camera image.
The previous permanent POI (city centre) can no longer be shown.

The Speed Cameras are loaded on the map databse

The sound warning happens for the permanent POIs only

The user-selectable POIs on the map are completely unaffected, and can be selected and displayed as before.

Does the professional nav act in the same way, i.e have audible warnings for permanent POIs like the military bases?

I'm hoping that this can be done for the Professional nav :dunno:

Poison only works on Professional nav on ibus vehicles

Just to expand on Jocken reply,

It only works on the HIGH discs (DVD,CD, 4:3 or 16:9, Professional nav on ibus vehicles, and only the mk4), not the PRO I-drive equiped cars.

Hi all, bit by bit I am building up my knowledege...BTW, my understanding is: if I want to load the POIs - but not the VOICE NOTIFICATION - on the map CD/DVD I have to do 2 things:
1) load icons into \tpd\nb..\icons\navi0x and rr.
2) load POI Database into map...BUT how? I mean, I would like not using POISoN.exe as this also patches the OS to have the sound notification. I only would like to have the speed cameras as permanent POIs...
Am I right or not??? :dunno:
Thank you.

Correct, but you also need the url and idx (POI DB) (SE) files and their html lookup (tables) files.

?? you either use POISon or you use the "normal" POI selection process.

If you only want the cameras on screen (permanently) then patch the navboot and don't edit the voice file.

Other than patching the OS, there is no way to have the cameras on screen permanently.

Here's the tool you need:
Pimp-My-Nav Home

Thx, yeah I know PMN ...do I have to buy it or is it available....somewhere else...;). Does PMN ONLY add POIs or it also add voice notification feature?

PMN = Only add POIs (any type, any quantity) to map disc

Poison = Add permenent POI with voice warning for Speed Cameras

2 x different tools for 2 x different purposes.

I added the speed cameras as military base to the map disc. But without patching the OS, it is not displayed on the MAP, because I cannot select military base in the NAV. There are many possibilities to select in the menu(Gas stations, restaurants, Police, museums, etc) but no military base. And except permantent POI Nav can display only one type of POI at a time. This type of POI has to be selected from the nav menu.

BTW what is the best method for patching OS?
1. Patch the navboot file and then add the custom splash screen, night mode, custom language (I' have hungarian instead of german)
2. Add custom things and finally patch the navboot file?

Do you know something about the reason of rebooting with the patched OS?
Thanks in advance

Correct, that's why nomad used the military base "poi" it's non selectable, for it to be displayed you must patch the navboot.

I find that option 2 is the best thing to do.

I always start each mod from a virgin navboot (OEM) and then mod with my modified colour and text modules, then replace the images with mine, that way I don't carry over errors.

The Nav only reboots if

1: the navboot file is to big (in KB).
2: the speed of the cd burn is to high.
3: the OS is corrupted.

It should not crash because of the patch, i have loaded my nav system approx 50-60 times when testing the patch and my nightmode colour scheme and not once did the system crash because of the patches to the OS or map disc.

You're welcome.

E5M1R: I'm also positive that my MKIV system is rebooting because of TMC. I'm running a modded V31 and a modded map 2009-1. As soon as TMC is loaded.... the system reboots. No problem with TMC turned off... This probably needs looking into... In my country, TMC is crap, but I't might be very usefull abroad.

I reverted to V29 just to get rid of the voice-files, and then went directly to a mod V31.... I have gotten the speedcamera icons displayed correctly before, but no voice. I might have messed up..... this is why i did a V29 revert and back to modded V31. Hopefylly this will add voice too


For the maps, I tried to burn on a TDK DL, but the system takes forever to load and eventually fails - twice I've tried this. I burned with 1X speed.

I also removed unused language files and burned on a regular DVD.... this failed too.... I'll try to burn again.... I have a modded 2008-2 disk that works fine... Anyone know of a DVD DL-brand that works?

How do I clean the DVD-player?

Nozic
BMW 525 T
MKIV

Ok very clear. Does this mean that PIMP-MY-NAV can just add "simple" speed-cameras POIs to the DVD?

Thanks

Unfortunately no chance for my to change the professional DVD to needed high version but i managed to sell the wrong nav DVD at ebay and found the 2009-2 DVD high in www. I think i must not post any links here but everybody needing this dvd should try a search with piratebay for a torrent.

yes, simple icon on screen only with no alerts.

Hi @ all,

I´m a member of the german e39-board and ahve a problem with adding the POIs to the DVD for permanent warning.
I tried many formats in asc and txt to import with POISON, but no success.

How does the file have to look?
6.10522;46.16304 So is the format I want to integrate.

Can anybody help me to get the file into the right format to import it with POISON?

Thanks a lot and bye,
Puschel

Welcome to the forums,

I used the .csv version of the pocketgpsworld files and this works perfectly.

format like this

-0.208348,50.847048
-0.212518,50.847757
-0.215964,50.847854
-0.204843,50.854838
-0.195267,50.855958
-0.182312,50.856234

These are dummy cameras located on the same road where I live and were used for testing only (they are not real camera sites).

HTH

Ok, thanks. I tried it now but no success...
I think I have a problem with the program.

Can anybody mail me his csv or txt file to check this?
Adress: [email protected]

Thanks a lot!

Bye!

Which part does not work mate?

check your email.

When I click IMPORT to choose my file (*.csv odr *.txt) nothing happens, the white board with lon/lat is still empty...

Ok, the same problem with your file. Nothings happens after import.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Puschel

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...j1/poison5.jpg

do you get this far

No, there are no figures.... Shit ;)

Try this

"Check your windows locale settings (control panel -> language and regional standards). Decimal point delimiter must be set to '.' (dot) not to ',' (comma)."

Ahh, ok! Thanks a lot, I´ll try this tomorrow!

You´re great!

Puschel

Really great, this solved my problem!!

Thanks a lot!

Greets,
Puschel

Nice one, glad it worked :)

help with poison.exe & gtk
 

Hi guys, could you help with the following error please?

"The procedure entry point g_assertion_message_expr could not be located in the dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll."

i have tried various versions 2.14.1, 2.14.7 etc

thanks

Is the poision.exe (and patch.exe) in the bin dir?

Thanks for the reply,

I have the poison.exe in a folder on the desktop, should they be in a folder in the GTK folder?

yes, install the gtk libraries into there default location, then move all the poison files into the bin dir, also move the navtweak and navspeak files into there too.

cheers bud, your a superstar!!

Ok I have modified the DB & overwrite the files back to the dvd image in ultraiso, i then burned themodified image but when i put it in the mk4 it says "incorrect cd"

I then tried saving the modded image as an iso & burned it but then the mk4 says "please wait a moment"

Any help would be appreciated

Glad its working now :)

What speed are you trying to burn the cd?? x1 or the slowest rated for the disc.

You are using imgburn and burning the image to the cd, not writing the .iso to the blank?

POIson at MK3
 

I´ve replaced the Military-POI´s "0" with LPG-Gasoline and it works on my MK3. Till last week I´ve crashed my MK3 by owned created NightView-Update-CD.

So ´ve wrote a PN to nomad. Perhaps he can create a POIson-Version, where I can select unused POI´s on the CD to replace.
An Update-CD for MK3 would be necassary to change worts like "Military" to "MacDonalds" :D

Patching the map cd is easy enough, but how did you patch the mk3 usw_load file?

bummer.

It might not be possible, as the mk3 has a slow cpu and not much memory.

I´ve didn´t patch the usw_load. I can only select the "Military" and can navigate me to this POI.

great job! do you have the v32 (tested/working) moded OS link?

thx

V32 and v32 are the same mate, identical, there are no changes from v31 to v32 for either the mk3 or the mk4.

but the moded OS version on megaupload is v31, i heard that v32 have d/l reading and faster voices loading, that's why i ask about
thank you

v30 (4-1/91) onwards has the Dual layer function, I haven't heard anything about the voice loading issues, like I said v31 and v32 are the same.

The Navboot files for both v31 and v32 have the exact same creation date.

Here is the SIB for the v32 OS update disc, as you can see no changes from v31 to v32.

Xoutpost.com - View Single Post - Navigation V32 SIB

HTH

i've seen that's no new features on v32 prior nav OS v30 and v31, but there is some improved software:

"CORRECTIONS INTRODUCED WITH PRIOR NAVIGATION SOFTWARE V31
NAVI03 and DVD-Top NAV system-improved software for:

• Reading dual layer DVDs
• Loading voice files"

i assume that dvd top nav is mk4, please correct me if i'm wrong

thank you

You are right (top nav = mk4), but the salient points are "PRIOR and V31", this means v30.

I take this as a reminder of the updates over v30, which would be correct.

I'm more than happy to be proved wrong, I would love v32 to be different from v31, but the fact is it's not, it's the same, identical, no changes.

I'll open up my downloaded v32 and have another look at it, but I think I'll get the same answer.

ok, thak you very much for answers (and patience :)), i was a little confuse about differences between v32 and v31, but i finally got it

No Problem, you're welcome.

I've just double checked, both v31 and v32 navboot files are same, with the same creation date

V31
14 January 2008, 16:58:54

V32
14 January 2008, 16:58:54

and same size (in kb).

V31
11.2 MB (11,817,132 bytes) Size
11.2 MB (11,821,056 bytes) Size on disc

V32
11.2 MB (11,817,132 bytes) Size
11.2 MB (11,821,056 bytes) Size on disc

ok, moded os cd burned, os loaded to mk4, the new logo appears :thumbup:

1. how should i see night mode working, it's change itself at specific hour or i have to change manually?

2. speedcam location uploaded to map, inserted with ultraiso to original disc image: the file seems to be exact same size as the original (carin.db) with same creation date/hour - it's ok?

thank you!

p.s. i used igo8 txt file, hope it's ok

Ok So far.

Manually.

No, it should be bigger (depending on how many cameras are loaded.

You did save the carindb (after the copy) from poison, then create a new carindb file, yes?

Should be OK, I don't know how good (or up todate) the files are there though.

yepp...you are right, forgot to click on save button...works like a charm now :thumbup: once again great job - very useful!!! did not figure out how to change to night mode yet, but i suppose i should change from setup menu on color mode

Nice one :)

Tha's it, press menu, then set and scroll to day/night (or colour set).

veeeeery strange, color 2 is exactly the same as original (twilight zone maybe..), in rest, everything it's ok, however, the most important thing - audio warnings on cameras working just perfect...:)

Sounds like you have not loaded (and saved) the 2nd colour set changes, (assuming you loaded them) other wise it will be OEM.

Sounds good.

Hallo,
I do not want to bother the forum with my weird questions but I I can’t resist to ask this new one in order to understand “how things work”.
So far, I know there are two ways to insert speed cameras icons into map’s dvd.
1. Using POIsON.exe and POI data. I did it with DVD HIGH 2009-1 and it works good (I have an MKIV with NOT-POISONED v32. Strange thing icon #216 is still a tank and not a speed camera icon!!!). I just have modded colours); When needed, I used to download new POIS and then update the DB files of the DVD. So far so good….but when I tried doing the same with HIGH DVD-9 it DID NOT WORK; (ACTUALLY I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD BUT THIS FITS BETTER)
2. Alternate procedure is splitting “original” DB_0 and DB_1 and replacing part of them (DB_0.001, DB_1.028) with others provided by someone else.
Here comes the “weird” question:
No problem to keep updated the maps with procedure number 1 (for HIGH 2009-1 as long as it does not work with HIGH 2009-2), BUT…how can I update the POI data for procedure number 2 ????
HOW DO I KEEP UPDATED MY DVDS??

Lol, Ask away my friend.

OK.

You need to mod the v32 as well, icon#216, to "see the correct icon"

POIsion hack is for audio alert AND auto loading of icons.

The 2009-1 and 2009-2 .lsc file is not the same, there are differences in the numbering of the .idx and .url files, you cant drag and drop the .lsc file from the old disc to the new one.


??

Make a copy of the OEM DB file (the 3.something GB one) and keep safe

Use POISon.exe to import the cameras and save them direct into the DB file, drag and drop into the DVD image and burn.

To update, use the OEM DB (the safe one) and add to the virgin DB file for every "update", that way only new cameras are loaded.

Yes I agree. I think the best method is using POIsON and own POIs.

In the italian forum there is also another procedure that requires to split the DB files in 50.000.000(million) byte pieces. Then you have 40 pieces for db_0 and 28 (if I remember correctly) for DB_1. Then you have to replace the first piece of both (DB_0.001 and DB_1.001) with the one that is provided. Do you know anything about?

Indeed,

Never heard of it mate.

Hi,

I'm having a problem with POIsoning my map. Well, guess it's worth mentioning that I was getting an error form POIson (sth with libglib-2.0-0) and only deleting it allowed me to open the programme. Just a thought it might have some impact.

I sucessfully created software CD and installation was smooth like a toilet paper.

I want to add some speedcams to my navteq CD map. I added some fixed speedcams from poiplaza and sucessfully created an image and burned it with the slowest possible speed. The map works perfectly just like the POIs with a small exception of speedcams :( When I open the military bases' directory it displays sth like "s343tva@sdd3d@rfhg" (not an exact quote) , a few chinese-like signs and an arrow. After clicking on it, navi wants to guide me to " s343tva@sdd3d@rfhg", but then just the map with my position appears. Any solutions ?

Cheers

Ok.

Well unless you get the grease proof stuff, lol

Sounds good.

Not so good.

You should not need to select the speed cameras in this way, the POIson patch should auto enable the cameras directly.

Loading the cameras from the POI menu, is not necessary and as the cameras (loaded to the BD) only have long:lat (with not other info), then the info fields are filled with padding, ie chinese-like signs.

HTH

So you're saying that there's no need to open the poi menu. Then you just put your map into the unit and all the speedcams just show up ?

Got one more question 'bout your map, ccfj1 . When you open the speedcams directory in your POI nav system, do you have the same kind of padding ?

If the OS is patched and the Map had the cams loaded, then Yes.

Yes, its just random crap filled in, in a normal POI setup, the extra info is filled from the .idx/.url files, since we are only loading the long and lat, then no .idx/.url info gets loaded.

But don't use it to select them.

Hello, i am new at this forum and maby my question on this is allready asked.
Could the adding of sound to these pois as discribed here also be done when the MK4 is in dutch?
I have bought a X5 4.4 in germany and has the nav changed by someone in Holland. Its not possible now to see pois, could not find anything in the menu. maybe with a update including sound it could work????

like the forum, could help me to understand my Bimmer better.

Thanks, Roy (The Hague, Holland)

The POIsON modification works on all languages

1. It modifies the OS, which is language independent
2. You choose your desired warning per language - eg: the German warning can be different to English or Dutch. If you want, you can add the warning to only one language and leave the others without warnings, if so desired.

Hi guys,
I'm back after a few practical tests with poisoned maps as already written before.
Well this i s the result:
1 old 2009-1 poisoned with POIsON = WORKS GOOD
2 new 2009-2 poisoned with POIsON = DOES NOT WORK (DOES NOT SHOW SPEED CAMERAS BUT IT SHOWS POI LOADED AS MILITARY BASES)

Any suggestion????

No, Mine works, (2009-2), the tank icon is changed in the OS (navboot) so not sure why you would see that with a modded map disc.

It miust be one of 3 things.

1: navboot not patched
2: map disc not POIsoned.

3:The only other thing I can think of is, you have kept the "/TPD/NCCBEUFNM_EU_20090216/ITA" dir yes? if you delete this then the mk4 will use the built in icons from the carindb (not good) and not the navboot loaded camer (tank) icon.

HTH

Hi guys,
thanks for the quick reply, going to try it wenn i have some more spare time.
could be that for this i make a exception because its so very usefull.

THANKS AGAIN.

Dearest CCFJ1,

despite the damn hot climate here in Rome, my brain still keeps working
(low speed BTW :rofl:)...still fighting with POIs on HIGH-2 DVD. Here we are with facts...
I did several tests modding map (high 2009-2) with different procedures, STILL NO ICONs displayed... the strange thing is that with the same procedures I have icons displayed when modding HIGH 2009-1.
I see that there are differencies between 2009-1 and 2009-2, but still do not understand where the problem is.
The OS that I have is a V32 modded by myself just for night vision. I mean, I took an original copy of V32 and I modded colours nothing else. But again this OS is showing POIs with modded 2009-1 maps and not with 2009-2 maps...what should I do before trying woodoo??

Grazie mille
.

Me neither, I've POIson modded my 2009-2 disc in the exact same way as the dvd-2009-1, cd-2008 and cd-2009/2010 and all have been perfect. All work with the correct icon and audio alert.

You did patch it though yes?

Not sure,
1: do the camera.csv files have an error or something that stops them loading via poison.exe,
2; can you see the DB being loaded with the new locations, when you import,
3:the new db is being saved?
4:you are coping the new db back into the map image?

Not sure what else to suggest mate :dunno:

Thnaks mate,

You did patch it though yes?

Well, it is NOT patched, and this is what I am going to do next. But I still can not undertsand why the procedure followed fort 2009-1 does not work with 2009-2. Yes the DB appears to load POIs as military bases.

What is the procedure to patch the OS? I have already changed the military base icon, but I guess there is till something more to do...

Thanks again

Maybe the 2009-1 disc was loading the POI via the POI menu and this gave the illusion of the camera being loaded.

The poison mods are a 2 stage process and do the following;

1: patch the navboot.
- a: auto enable the military bases to be loaded at startup
- b: enable the military bases to use the audio string, #9
- c: replace the tank icon with camera icon

Also needed
- a: add an alert to audio string #9

2: patch the map disc.
- a: import camera locations direct into DB.

Once the above has been done, then that's it.

All cameras (loaded via poison) are auto displayed and have the alert.

Edit the navboot with navtweak for all your mods, then run the patch (in the same dir as navtweak), that's it,

One last thing,

I do NOT wish the sound alert, I am happy with the icon display only. Is then a different procedure to patch the OS in this case?

THX

Easy, use the patch but don't edit the language.csf file.

The patch just setups up the navboot.

Just out of interest, why bother, the whole point of the POIson hack is to have an audio alert??

If you just want the icon, use PMN or the POI menu hack.

Sometimes it seems we "loop"...

YES, indeed, this is what I was trying to achieve BUT, as mentioned earlier, it did work with 2009-1 but it did/does NOT work with DAMN :confused: 2009-2 !!!!

I know PMN and I'm trying to get a copy. Do u refer to a specific procedure when u say POI menu hack?...maybe I am missing something...:rolleyes:

THX THX THXXXX

It's a strange one, its the same process for both the discs, so I don't know why it wont work.

OK.

Editing the ITA.LSC (eng.lsc for me) file for extra POI options.

You're welcome.

[QUOTE=ccfj1;643103]It's a strange one, its the same process for both the discs, so I don't know why it wont work.


If I sort it out I wil be more than glad to report what was wrong on benefit of the forum!! ;)


Editing the ITA.LSC (eng.lsc for me) file for extra POI options.

I am not sure what/where to operate into LSC file. I can open it with word or hex editor but do not know where to add lines and "pointer (??)"

Notepad or textedit.

There are plenty of post on this mate, do a search.

:thumbup:ok thanks I'm going to study...

Hi everybody,
as known (to all of you) after about 35thousand questions :D I was able to do it by myself. Edited my .lsc file added new POIs categories, screen and so on..so I have my very personal DVD HIGH 2009-2!!
Now..is anybody able to explain how the asc2mk4_igh.exe and asc2idxurl_mk4.exe handle the .asc format file of POI to get the .idx and .url files required by the BMW system?.....Thanks :popcorn::cool:

Not as such, they just convert them so that the OEM bmw system can read them.

AFAIK, it just shifts the data around and makes the 2 files.

Hi dearest,

yes very close to. I opened with hex editor the .url and .idx files and it is the actual data mixed up with something else. I am not an expert of programming but is there any way to "decode" the dos exe fle in order to have a look at the program structure?
Thanks for your outstanding help mate :rofl:

I do all these, I can see speed cams but i haven't voice alert

How I do this? : - a: auto enable the military bases to be loaded at startup

How I do this? :- b: enable the military bases to use the audio string, #9

By loading the Poison patch, you have achieved a) and b)

The poison patch does this tasks automatically, it patches the nav system to enable military bases and play audio string #9.

The Poison patch works also in MKIII's Navboot??

;)

Why i dont have voice alert?
What can i do?

No, only mk4 navboot.

Have you added a alert wav to the voice file on your OS or used code from the OEM voice file?

See page 1 post 1

B: Voice modification
1. Extract voice file from V_2/Voices/0506 (gb_f.csf for english)
2. Edit voice phrases #8 #9 using NavSpeak utility, for example: 322,323,88,250,191 (high beep, low beep, a pause, attention, ahead)
3. Put modified voice file file back to CD image.

D: Force Voice upgrade
1. Create directory /V_2/Voices/0507 in original disc image and copy all files from /V_2/Voices/0506 to it
2. Copy voice.lst file from poison zip archve to /V_2/Voices/0507
3. Copy lng_rel.tbl file from poison zip archve to /V_2/RR/0101/BMWC01S first 4 bytes in lng_rel.tbl must be the same as in sw_rel.tbl

I did all above as the instuctions
Must TMC be to ON ?

If you have done the above and patched the navboot then it must work, if it does not work, then you have missed something.

You have edited your country's language file yes?

No, the patch works independently of the TMC.

I have American,English and French I use American and English. I have edit audio in #8 and #9 in these language.
What do you mean : "You have edited your country's language file yes?"
with "your country's " and "yes" ?
How do I do the "yes"?

OK, So these are set in the nav as the 1st,2nd and 3rd languages?

You only need it set on the 1st language, so the American language file (USA_F.csf) has the alert mod added?

This is a question from me to you! it means have you done this? (yes or no).

If you have modded the usa_f.csf file, have you now made a new voices dir (0507) and put the modded file in there and hex edited all the files required for the voice dir upgrade? (yes or no?).

Did you see on the nav screen when updating, "Loading new languages, USA" (yes or no?)

I did all as you say above and all are OK Many many thanks to ccfj1 for your advices
How can I ajust the voice alert (lower or higher) ?

Hi Guys,

sorry, i don't know if the following problem was already discused but i don't want to read 39 pages: :D
I think i found a bug in POIson!! Everybody knows the function that the MK4 displays the POI Icon of the former selected category on the nav card. These Icons will also be available when the MK4 shuts down and comes up again when you open the car. BUT: With POIson: The selected POI Catergory/Icon is deleted everytime the MK4 shuts down...

This is not a bug and is explained in page #1, post #1 my friend.

For the auto loading function to work the POISon hack must flush the current loaded POI (yes even itself) and load the "military bases" as the primary POI, this is so the correct POI database (carinDB) is loaded for the correct alert.

You can also have 2nd POI loaded, and like above this must be flushed when started so that the 1st POI works.

Nomad is looking at this and hopefully he can sort it out so that the primary and secondary are reloaded (not flushed) at startup.

Hello,
sorry for my bad english, i´m from Germany and i was very afraid to here from the poi warning with sound!And Nightview !

I have a 2008-1 europe with poi and a unpatched original v32

Can anybody help me to become a Patched v32(With all(Bootlogo, Nightview,and poi sound) and a Europe 2009 with POI´s ???

My I-net connection is very fast if anybody have a DL link......

best regards
MiC
[email protected]

Hi Mic,

Have a word with Rubin, he is also from Germany and has done a lot of good work with nightmode.

thx a lot!
I will contact Rubin!

Best regards!:thumbup:

Hi
It's my first post on this forum. I've bought lately X3 (E83) with NAVI PRO, and like so many of you I wish to upgrade this system. I'm working on it just for a week and I'm still in programming mode but after reading previous posts and other threads on this forum it's seems to be not very complicated. The biggest problem was to find correct GTK+ library, I tried 7 different versions (!) and none of them works satisfactory with both navtweak/speak and Poison, what confirmed yours problems with crashing navtweak. I got slightly pissed and begun to make some experiments, so what it came: the mix of newest (?) library 2.16.6 and older one 2.8.18 did a trick. I can use now any navtweak 2.6 or 2.7, also Poison and make a lot of navboot changes, save it, or not when using some other applications in meantime, even forgot about it for all day and it didn't crashed even once (XPpro_SP3 by the way). My car is quite new, so question is how BMW company reacts to "upgraded" software? I don't want to loose guarantee, do I have to put original soft when I have to go for any service? Any experience in this subject? Is it possible to download OEM soft from car? . Because I had no luck to find OEM soft so I used poisoned one with patched navboot, just for practising. But it's a pity there is no OS9000 emulator for testing what I've done, I've also read post where somebody claims that NAVI starts when door is open. I have to turn on ignition key, but this creates me another idea to put more life in navi. Is it possible to make navi "talk" during startup. It would be cool to hear something like "welcome on board pal” or whatever "take off your paint ladies ...w’re starting our ride" Any toy running simplest OS can do it, why not NAVI?
Best regards for everybody.

edited..

To put new POI to DVD_HIGH map, first I'm changing format using asc2mk4_high. Is it a way back to convert (or edit) existing POI in IDX/URL files?

is it possible to insert 2 different POI´s and 2 different sound warnings? one for fixed speedcameras and the second one for places with possible patrol car?

No, is the quick answer.

there are free slots in the carindb available, but as yet nomad has not seen if this can be done.

ok. i have modified 2010 High DVD with fixed speedcameras. can i use pimp-my-nav to add other POIs (without sound alert) to this modified DVD and will they be both visible?

as i understand MK4 can´t sense wich direction the camera is pointed? it will alert all cameras driving one way or another?

Yes, this is what I do (but I don't use PMN), I have all fixed cameras as alert and all mobile as no alert, both can be on screen at the same time.

however, the selected POI will reset every time your turn off the car and restart it (it's part of the auto load function for poison).

Both ways and in any direction, you (the car) is in the centre of a large circle, cameras enter the circle and the alert sounds.

what program you use to insert POIs then?

None, I do it by hand with textpad.

Yes, but it is a beta version and work only in DOS mode:

url2asc_high.exe from High

url2asc_prof.exe from Professional

Thanks Angelych.

aise : I'm also using wordpad MFC with asc2mk4_high.exe for adding POI to map. It's easy.
You can see example what to do: file NCCBEUFNM_EU_20090216.rar with plenty POI's but mostly for my country only on Chomik - logowanie
pass1: cX3 pass2: navi
this works also with 2010 map

...and for my knowledge, what is the advantage to have the .idx/.url back to .asc ??

Anyhow you can edit the .idx/.url with the wordpad or hex editor. I find the manual procedure pretty easy and simple once you get used to it. No interest in having thounsands of POIs in my DVD.

Angelych why don't you provide a windows interface instead the old DOS .exe file? It would make it easy for many of us...

I use an Excel spreadsheet with a macro that writes the POI data directly as idx and url files

You can write many more fields than just name and lat/long.
Eg phone numbers, sorting fields, etc etc etc

Very powerful.
And all in Excel, so extremely easy to use and to sort and edit....