Can I put POI on MK3 system ?

yes, but no alert, only the POI (as OEM).

Hi John, can you check your private messages please? thanks.

thancks ccfj1

what about patching usw_load in MK3 ?

Patch only works on the navboot file mate.

thancks again mate

I mean how I can patch OS in MK3 to Add POI ?

Adding POIs and patching the OS are 2 different things mate.

Patching the OS = enabling the alert function to the OS.
Adding POIs = adding POIs to the OEM map disc.

The OS patch only works on a navboot file (mk4).

Use POISon.exe to add POIs to the OEM map disc, point E: page 1, post 1 of this thread.

thanks Mate :thumbup:

BMW.Road.Map.Europe.HIGH.DVD.20010-01.MULTiLANGUAGE Speedcams
 

I have added speedcam in BMW.Road.Map.Europe.HIGH.CD 2009-02 I can see speedcams and i have voice alert. I do all (as post#12 in page#2 says) with BMW.Road.Map.Europe.HIGH.DVD.20010-01.MULTiLANGUAGE with poison but I can't see speedcams and I haven't voice alert. When I check DB I see that the speedcams added.
Speedcams work with CD but not with DVD
Thanks

Navteq have blocked unused POI's from the carindb, so although they load and register in the carindb, they don't work (icon or alert)

I have found a way round this and have a fix but I'm still testing, I'll post the fix when I'm happy it works properly.

I am waitting for your message
thanks

Any more word on adding the speedcams to the 2010-1 disk? I have scoured the web and found some evidence (i think!) that people have it working, but it is all in Italian, and I have no idea what they are talking about :rofl: Google translate included next to each line...

Credit to OP at original thread Google Translate

Lol, it is mine but it is italian POIs

OK, I have a zip file (1mb) with the mods required for the 2010 disc to work with nomads POISon mods, Pm me for the link.

P.S my mail box files up quickly so be patient.

Angelych already replied, BTW I find this procedure very complicated and it does not actually allow to have your own POIs. I mean you have to take the full package. You like it or not.
I use to edit the file one by one; it is actually time consuming but the result is exactl what you want/need.
It is a kind of not really easy procedure but basicly you need these steps:
- make your own POI DB converting POIs from .ASC to MKIV language (very easy);
- update references in all files in DVD (medium difficult and time consuming);
- edit and update .LSC file (medium);

send me the link with a PM
Thanks

Anyone else have problems selecting the folder that the DB is in with poison? As soon as i click OK (after browsing to the folder) i get an error fron windows and it says do i want to check online for a solution or close the programe?

OK just tried a different version of GTK+

Latest version 2.16 DOES NOT WORK
gtk2-runtime-2.16.6-2009-12-01-ash

2.14 DOES WORK
gtk2-runtime-2.14.7-2009-01-13-ash

OK i did all of this. 2009-1 with v32 software, and 2010-1 with v29 software. I dont see any speed cameras on the map, and i dont see any option anywhere to turn the alerts on.

1) Can someone confirm the location of sw_rel.tbl ?
2) DB_1 file size changed from 1,232,535KB to 1,268,728KB so POI definately were added by POIson
3) I've tried both the normal settings menu and the hidden one and i cant see the alert option anywhere, where should it be?

I'm so frustrated, i've spent 5 hours on this tonight and still cant get it to work. :(

Hi,

I had same problem with my 2010 DVD. I changed icon to an existing on the 2010 and now it works.

Greets,
Puschel

But i dont even see the option to turn the alerts on, the icon on the dvd shouldn't affect the firmware on the unit should it?

The icon on screen and the alert are 2 different things mate.

To turn on the alert you need to run the patch.exe one the navboot file, this enables the alert and sets the sound position in the voice file AND sets up the auto loading of the POI.

The map DVD Icon will effect the loading of the icon (but only the POI loading, not the Alert+icon) and must be correct, did you not download the zip I sent you and try that, this one does work.

Mine is working perfectly and in English.

If you mean (alert on/off) in the nav setup, this is not OEM and must be modded in the OS.

OK didnt realise the option to turn alerts on/off was another mod.

I used the zip you sent, did everything in all the guides that it said to do, burnt slow on good media, updated firmware, put map disc in, and started car. zoomed out but couldnt see any speed cameras, drove past 3 which didn't show on the map but nothing happened. They were definately in the Gatso POI files i used and did show as imported with POIson so really cant understand why they dont show when in the car.

Waiting for some discs in the post, so will try again soon. :(

I have a new download mate, I'll pm you the link tomorrow.

Cool cheers. Is it firmware? patch? or map?

Map patch, for the full Alert on/off mod and a fully patched OS, check your PM.

cool cheers

me too please!!!!!;)

Thx a lot!

I'll forward on tonight once tested.

me too please;)

Nomad:

Go figure your PM inbox is full...

anyway....
Any chance i could get you to tell me what the patch actually does?

I Mean specifics?

I'm wondering about adding multiple types of POI's with different sounds (alerts) for each...

The patch, does several things.

1: enables the alert
2: sets the the alert position in the voice file (#8)
3: sets the alert db to military bases
4: clears the last set POI (if ones been set)
5: sets the auto load feature for the military bases (and therefore the alerts)
6: sets the alert time duration to target to 15scs
7: sets the bubble around the car (the target area)

Not sure you would need to ask nomad.

It would be handy for multiple speed related alerts.

LoL.... yeah thats what i figured.. I was wondering How and Where numbers 2 and 3 where getting done.

Hello,

first I would like to say that Poison is a great tool :thumbup: But now I have problem with it:

It's not running with Windows 7 and the new 2010 DVD MAP on my pc :( I extracted both files and I am starting Poison. This works fine, but after I selected the map folder, Poison freezes and I get message on the screen, that Poison is not working? :dunno:

Has anybody an advice for me? :rolleyes: Last year it worked fine for me, so I don't know what to do now....

I had the same problem, so i rolled back to an earlier version of the GTK drivers.

Latest version 2.16 DOES NOT WORK
gtk2-runtime-2.16.6-2009-12-01-ash

2.14 DOES WORK
gtk2-runtime-2.14.7-2009-01-13-ash

Thank's, now it's working again, great :thumbup:

no probs - i spent an hour trying to figure it out though :rofl:

Sorry, but need I help again :yikes: Posion is runing, but I can't import my POI :dunno: I loaded a few (different type) from poiplaza but nothing happend, after I selected my file :(

Change the decimal point to "." and not ","

Thanks Nomad
 

Thank's again....just copying files :thumbup:

Indeed, Happy birthday POIson :)

From earlier in the topic.



*EDIT* - Someone beat to to the reply

Hi, new to this. Has anyone gotten these mods to work on an 07 X3 North America.

Looks like some amazing things being done here.

I am running V31 or 32 with 2008-1 maps modded using Pimp My NAV to add local red light cameras.

As long as you have a Mk4 nav, the type of vehicle and your location in the world are irrelevant.

So it works on BMW, Mini, Range Rover, Rolls Royce, from Timbuktoo to Vancouver.

V31 is identical to V32 with regards to the Mk4 nav

questionnnnnnnnnnnnnn :rolleyes: question:

I am trying to convert POI file to .idx and . url (as i did many times)procedure is:
1. get POIs in .csv format
2. with POIEdit change format from .csv to .asc (generic).
..well here comes the problem:
- asc2idxurl_mk4 works fine and I get correct .idx and .url
- asc2mk4_high DOES not work anymore (..yes, the fuc.. was working some time ago).

Any advice??

Thx

asc2mk4_high is made by Angelych, have a word as he re-complies it every now and again.

Ciao ccfj1, nice to see u again. Yep, I know Angelych is the man BTW I'm not getting any answer... maybe he is busy.
I just wanted to share with you all to see if anybody has experienced and solved the problem.
Whois taking care about asc2idxurl_mk4?...spanish guys??? :rolleyes:

Maybe.

I don't know TBH, it still works (asc2idxurl_mk4.exe) BTW.

beg pardon, if I repeat the question...where are we with romcol_1 modifications?....any progress???

Ah sorry, no where as yet, nomad has not got back to me (last I heard was Christmas), and I know he's working on the CCC (Most bus Nav), so not sure when he's going to look at it.

Maybe I should release my Excel spreadsheet... enter POIs in the spreadsheet with lat/long, then click a button -> IDX and URL files are automatically generated

In this case, you'll have - at least - a beer paid by me in Rome! :D

Well this would really be a good support from you. I would really not only me I guess - appreciate such a simple way to convert POIs data into .idx and .url. I am not an expert in PC but I would really like to understand how the conversion works. I've been playing with files asc/csv/idx and so on and it seem they are "only a list"..but how can I compile the list????

How does it work?

The IDX and URL files have a simple structured format. The format is quite easy to figure out if you use a hex editor.

The IDX is an index file and contains only the POI ID number with the lat/long, expressed in a POSWGS notation, and the POI name. The data is sorted by longitude and if there are many POIs it is also indexed in blocks for fast searching.

The IDX file is used to show the POI locations on the map, and shows the name in the search results.

The URL file contains the details of the POIs, such as name, village, city, street, house number, phone number, brand name, name-starts-with, importance, entry-position, and any other attributes you may care to add. Whatever attributes you have in the file can be then used in the HTML file that displays the POI data.
You can store strings, integers, boolean, and probably other types.
The info is unlimited, just use your imagination as to what you wish to store in the URL file.

The URL file is used to show the detailed POI info about a POI when it has been selected after a search.

Hello I had similar problem with asc2mk4_high, so figure out that Microsoft released Windowsupdate for stopping some DOS (16 bit) applications. So I switched to PC without this update and asc2mk4_high works again. Probably you can look for this in services.

Well, I solved the problem as I downloaded the file again (if you need it we are at www.autoutility.it). I know Angelych does some changes form time to time, but I bleive my problem was corruption of the file. Actually is difficult to believe to me as it happened with two different PCs.
AFAIK there are only two similar "converter" asc2mk4_hig and the spanish asc2idxurl_mk4. IAW Kiwi explanation I guesse the doi the same. :rolleyes:

Kiwi YOU ARE THE MAN :thumbup: ...great explanation. I really appreciate very much your explanation. I owe you a couple of beer already when you are in Rome.
Well, the content of the file is very easy to understand. I opened the file with different editors and it is a simple list. WhatI do not know is the way to "build up the file". I will study your words and try to figure out how to manage the conversion. When you would make available the excel spreadsheet it would be great. It is not because I'm looking for things prepared thnaks to other's efforts...but, honestly I am not so expert :dunno:.
Despite that, I must admit that it is tahnks to you all that I was able to do everything and even giving my modded navboot to ccfj1..I was honoured :thumbup:.

See here:

POI Maker Website

I'm 0/2 on my nav DVDs so far. First one would be recognized by the nav system, but there was corruption somewhere in the data (no addresses, street names, etc). The second one would not even be recognized by the DVD reader, even though i burned at 1x.

When I copy the modified DB back to the ISO file, is there anything inherently wrong with deleting the old DB folder in the ISO and substituting the POIson-modified one? I'm using ISOMaster if it matters....

oh damn i just dont understand how to do that lol. ive got my edited v32 (changed splash) but what now?

waaha finally got it. but i cant burn it, the dvd is too small. is there anything i can delete?

Remove TPD languages that you don't need for your car.

Tip: compare what 3 x languages are on your car, and keep these 3 on the map disc. Delete all others. Then it will still work in your car for all loaded languages.

under the folder: nccBeuFNM_eu_20070801 for example whole folder "SPA"?

Yes, if I remember correctly you have to delete at least three languages to make it fit one DVD SL

:thumbup: Thanks to all who have created and maintained these wonderful tools. I have successfully modded my MK IV OS. A map disk with no mods work fine. However, when I take a POIson modified map with about 13,000 POI updates added (Trapster CSV files) I get a split screen with no maps. The Pointer appears and the Latitude and Longitude changes but no maps.

I was wondering if there was a limit to the number of POI or is there some other problem.

Thanks for your help!

No limit in POIs, you must have done something else wrong, (wrong speed of burning by the sound of it).

Thanks. I'm using IMGBURN at the slowest speed rated for my drive. I will try ULTRAISO or MAGICISO.

Try at the slowest rated speed of the blank disc.

Hallo again ccfj1, You said: "Don't unpack'', but if I use UltraIso, the resulting .iso file will be in Mode1. If I have MK3 this will kill my nav ;). May I unpack the whole Map CD in a folder, import some POIs and then use m2cdmgui to make image in Mode2/Form1, which is the right image for my computer МК3?

For the map this is not necessary, the map can be mode1 or mode2, only the OS must be mode2/form1.

Thanks again ccfj1, :beerchug:.

2010 TELEATLAS DVD
 

Nomad, the 2010 DVD's from TELEATLAS no long have a DB folder. The CARINDB file is over 2GB and is in the root of the DVD. There is still a TPD folder.

Can the CARINDB be edited by POIson?


UPDATE: Tried importing POI into the CARINDB. When saving the following error message was received.

Unable to allocate block in CD database, database must be converted to DVD

Anyone with thoughts on this issue.

Don't know about the NA disc mate, are you sure its a HIGH disc? POISon work on all HIGH and cd based systems I've tried it on.

The DVD's work fine in the car unmodified. The internal file structure has changed from the NAVTEQ maps.

The part number is 65 90 2 158 157 - DVD North America High
Provider is now Tele Atlas.

Is there anyone who can comment on the error message noted from POIson. Does Nomad monitor this board or is there another way to reach him for support?

I can't comment as I've not seen the errors mate.

Were the other files in the same dir as the carindb when you tried to patch the poi db?

Nomad does monitor the board, but he's working on another project at the moment and I've not heard from him in a while.

What information would you like me to post that might help in the diagnosis of the problem? I performed the following steps

1) Opened DVD using UltraIso
2) Copied the entire DVD to the POIson folder
3) Launched POIson pointing to the POIson folder
4) Added about 5,500 camera POI's
5) Created a POIson1 folder within the POIson folder
6) POIson copies all orginal files to the POIson1 folder
7) Save the changes. This is when the error message appears. There is an error message generated for every POI imported. The program continues through and saves changes. See the first post in this thread for the error message
8) Create an ISO using IMGBURN from the files in the POIson1 folder
9) Burn the ISO using IMGBURN
10) Maps are visible on the NAV but no camera POI's are visible.

Thanks in advance.

I'm also interested if anyone has a solution on the error message noted from POIson for the NA 2010 HIGH maps. Thanks.

Sounds like navteq have added the POISon block that they used on the Euro 2010-1 then.

I may be able to help, but I'll need some files from the NA disc to confirm, any one want to help?

What do you need?

I'll need the whole disc minus the DB files, zip them up and post me a link (megaupload/rapidshare).

It will only be approx 180mb zipped up.

Please see the attached for the structure of the DVD. Please let me know wha you want uploaded

azaremba... did you get any inputs about the error from the POISON??

Not Yet.

that is bad... where is the creator of POISON?? :)

He has another project going from what I understand. CCFJ1 can help. Once he lets me know what files from the new DVD he needs I can get them uploaded.

Sorry mate, this slipped my mind.

What's inside the TPD dir mate, if its only the 2 db files then delete them and then save the resultant image (everything else) to 2101-NA.iso and then zip it up and upload to somewhere I can get at it.

I don't need the carindb file either.

If you have the 2009 NA dvd do the same and I can then compare them like for like and hopefully spot where navtech have hidden the poison block.

PM me the link mate.

No audible warnings
 

I have a strange problem. I have a MKIV, English language (I would like dutch navigation instructions, but still have to pass by a dealer to change this), which I cannot get to give audible warnings.

I tried creating my own patched OS according to the instructions on the first page. However, I probably made a mistake - so my MKIV gave a programming error, and a black screen.

I managed to recover with a clean OS-disk, but I've become very nervous about reprogramming my MKIV with my own patched version. So, i downloaded several pre-patched versions and tried those. Among those was the 'CCFJ' version; but, as several persons already reported, this version does not work with TMC enabled. Probably has to do with the extraordinary amount of traffic jams in the Netherlands, the list of messages is always very long, resulting in frequent reboots. So, frustrated with that, I gave up - I did not even create a patched map disk.

However, this week I gave it another try. I downloaded a pre-patched V32 version which until now does not reboot, even with TMC enabled - so I was happy! This version has, according to several persons who've tried it, dutch warnings and night colors (which I do nog like), and is reported to work even with a english sound setting.

Yesterday, I created my first map-disk (v2010-1). I've removed all non-english languages to fit the map on a single-layer disk, and the disk works fine. I can see the camera's on the screen (icons) - but I do not hear any warnings.

So, I suspect the claim that this OS-version works with a English language setting is incorrect,and that the only reason that I do not hear any warnings is that the MKIV tries to play a non-existent Dutch soundfile. Could this indeed be the case?

Ok.

Correct, I too have seen this problem (not personally, but it has bee reported to me), I have created a another modded version that does not force a reboot with TMC bursts.

This modded version works 100% of the time and no one that has used it gets the TMC reboot problem any more.

The TMC reboot problem only happens on approx 5-10% of all mk4 btw.

OK, I made up a Dutch version a while back (language and txt), not sure if its the same one though, where did you get it?

You have not patched the 2010-1 disc so that poison works, navteq have modified the disc so that the POISson patch fails.

I will pm you a link to a patch for the 2010-1 disc and then it will start to work.

Possible, have you looked into the .csf file and heard the sound in options 8 and 9 (using navspeack)??

Usenet. I'll email a link to a private FTP server so you can check it out. It has a Night-mode patch, and a patched startup screen (B/W).

The patch looked to go OK, no error messages etc. Also, I could see the icons of the camera's on my screen. Maybe the european version of the 2010 disc is unchanged? I am of course interested in the patch, just in case

Now you have me worried. I looked into the files, but I cannot find any changed #8/#9 for any of the languages. However, the camera's are loaded and shown on the screen. It looks like someone did patch the OS, but forgot to change the voice messages!

Downloaded and checked, you are correct, the dutch voice file has no alert, I've added it and changed the version number and uploaded to your server.

Unzip, burn and give it a go.

I have working alerts now!

Thanks, ccfj!

Hey ccfj1, when making your OS mods remember to add the voice alert to every language on the OS disc :-)

You never know what language the end user will choose...

any news on the 2010 NA "high" mods for POISon?

Trouble with that is that you never have a alert off then (as it uses a non modded language).

I can make one with all the languages done, but it wont have the alert on/off option then.

Not yet received the upload link?

hello, i have the same problem, no voices in dutch. can this latest update help??
have an X5 with MKIV and a 2010 (with speedcams).
can you tell me (maybe by PM) where i can find this modded OS ?

Roy, you have PM

no ready software with maps?

is better than explaining


anybody can give us the software with added Poison

i hope so

Not sure what you mean mate, what are you asking for??

i mean how can i make my map profisional who have the software with poison

POISon does not work for PRO disc mate,

^^^

you didnt get me


i meant i need latest map for the gulf with poison

my car is mk4 x5 2003

Ah ok, good luck with that then.

I've not seen the gulf map.

Hello ccfj1,

I noticed that in V32 Poison the range volume among navigator and radio is drastically decreased. Is there a reason?

I just stumbled upon this. What's the deal with the POISoN block? How will I encounter it?
I was going to modify my new 2010 HIGH disc with speed cams. POIsoN added the POIs without an error. Can I burn the disc now or is there something else to do?
Edit: One more thing. Is it safe to delete the DVD9 folder as well when shrinking to a single-layer DVD?

Hi all, ccfj1 it is again your turn to help your italian friends. As Angelych just reported a couple of posts before, one of our guys has noticed that there is a difference in the volume regolation when you install a poisoned v32 agains a v31 or even against a v32 NOT poisoned ( I hope I got the problem correctly as it is not my personal case...). Inother words it seems that the poisoned V32 has a less effective volume control.
Did u notice that?....any suggestion about?
Take care mate :thumbup:

it seems I have two accounts. Sorry about that, one was related to the old forum. :rolleyes:

Hi Guys,
TBH I have not noticed this, but I don't use a voice as my alert (I did but have changed it).

It could be that POIson, does soemthing to the volume.

I have a SOT amp on mine so had to turn down the volume anyway, but to adjust the volume I used the TP option, this will equlise the volume between the nav and radio/cd/tape/ipod.

I will send you a patch mate.

See above.

No, just delete the unused languages, it will fit then.

do i need to change 1000 to 1001


i didnt made this step


i install the software without error


even the map i entered garmin csv file


when i can feel the diffrent?

its work perfect

good luck to the others

Hello.
I'm using poison patched v.32 which works perfect with both 2009 (_1&2) high maps. But when I tried to put 2010 map all freezes at once (screen and any respond from navi button). No disc problem, I used also same dvd_RW for all maps. Any suggestion?

You have a problem with the 2010 disc mate, have you fixed the disc so it works with POIson? (read the thread mate).

ccfj1, did you get my PM? If not, something went wrong.
I asked about a link to the patch needed to get the 2010 disc working with POISoN.
Thanks in advance!

Sent mate (sorry, I thought I'd done it before).

I don't think so, because I used same dvd_RW for all maps.

Yes, I have, no problem with that.
Actually I did it at least a few times, that's reason that both maps 2009_2 and before 2009_1 works good.

Maybe my 2010 corrupted in some way? I will look for another one.

^^Sorry mate, I may have not said it properly, thats what I meant, the 2010 disc (image) is bad (I mean your 2010 map image is bad), not the dvd-rw.

Have you tried the an oem v32 (OS loaded on your mk4) and an OEM (non modded) 2010 disc, that will help diagnose if it's Poison.

it's came on my mind too.

Thanks mate, good idea, v32 OEM & moded against 2010 OEM & poisoned. Let you know results in a couple of days, becuase I'm scheduled tomorrow in BMW for first oil service.

Hey guys, I seems to have got the first part no problem but I'm sticking on the POISON part. 1 I did no problem, 2 I can get poison to run but when I go forward and then select the DB file that I have saves in a folder on the desktop called maps it crashes poison every time.

E:Adding POI to map database:
1. Copy map database from CD/DVD to the hard drive (bibliogr and carindb files are enough fo CD, bibliogr and DB folder for DVD maps).
2. Run poison.exe, open map folder (folder where bibliogr file located)
3. Add your own POI or import from plain lon/lat txt or csv file.
Take a look at http://www.poiplaza.com/index.php?p=...pg=ds&lsts=616
You can use: iGO 8 txt, iGo txt, GARMIN csv, destinator asc, mio asc, navigon asc, route 66 csv and tomtom asc files from there.
4. Save modified database
5. Insert modified database (carindb file of DB folder) back to image using UltraIso.

OK I've got poison to run on my other machine.

Let me check I am trying to do the correct steps now.

I have place the BD file and BIBLIOGR file from the map disk into the folder POISON.

I then run the exe POISON and click forward.

From there I select a click select a map database folder and browse to the folder DB within the directory POISON.

I then get an error message saying. Unable to open database files.

:dunno:

1: what version of windows are you running
2: what version of the GTK libs are you running
3: don't save on the desktop, make a dir in the root dir (c:\bmw\db and c:\bmw\db1)
4: have you set the decimal point to . (and not ,).

Hi there, thanks for your response.

I'm running windows 7.

gtk2-runtime-2.14.7-2009-01-13-ash I linked to it from earlier in the thread.

I had not done that with the directories but I have now. I created a directory called bmw and put the DB file from the disk image in there along with the BIBLIOGR file and created a new folder called DB1 within the same BMW directory.

As for the ./, thing, I'm not sure how to change/check that on windows 7.

In win7, right clik on desktop and select personalize, then "all control panel items" then "region and language", then "additional settings", its the first option.

Keep the dir names small (less than 7 chars), and dont use spaces.

so

c:\bmw\db (for oem db files)
c:\bmw\db1 (for modded db files)

Give that a go mate.

Checked all that and still the same error. All I should be doing is trying to open the DB folder with POISON right?


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/...4f992d7a_o.png

Mount Your High DVD img in Daemon Tools. Then open only the virtual drive with POISoN and don't mark any files or folders, just click on OPEN. After poisoning save results in empty folder on the desktop.

Ah I see....

I have 2 dir

c:\bmw\OEM\db
c:\bmw\modded\db

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/Capture2.png


Here is a pic of the oem\db

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u.../Capture-1.png

Inside the db dir is the 2 db files.

After you load and import the cameras, save to the modded dir, and you should get this...

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u.../Capture-1.png


You have both db files in the same dir and you need all the other files as well (as it is on the disc).

Hi ccfj1, I'm not using voice alert as well, but I would like to ask you to help us investigate the case. So far it seems when we add the voice alert message this is not affected by the volume regulation. Do u have any clue what POIson.exe does to the software? Could it be the sound file itself or what?
Thanks a lot..and have a nice weekend mate!:bustingup

OK.

Agreed, I did not notice any (large) change when I did its, but thats not to say it doesn't.

AFAIK,

POIson.exe

1: unpacks and opens the carindb (DB) ready for alert insertion
2: enables military bases db in carindb (DB) file
3: populates the military bases with alert locations in easy reading formats
4: recompiles, compresses then saves carindb (DB).

Patch.exe

1: enables the alert function in the navboot
2: sets area to be used (for alert)
3: sets whether its and into or out off area for alert. (enabled only for in)
4: sets the alert DB to be military bases
5: sets alert icon to military bases
6: checks the military bases db has entries

What it can also set (but not enabled, as not stable in testing)

6: minimum speed to alert, so if under speed no alert sounds.

This would be great **IF** the db entry was able to have its speed info set.

7: multiple alerts for same alert (so we get 1 but it could 2 or 3)
8: alert at nav power on, to inform alerts enabled.

Yes, that would be my first though, I tried to set my alert at the same volume and its seems to be about right, but setting it higher would also work ok.
No problem, you too mate, the weather here is sunny and very warm :)

Hello guys, thanks for your help. It looks like I have both iso's complete now and ready for install, which brings me to my next problem. I have previously upgraded my satnav to v32 and my system isn't installing the new DVD. Also with the map DVD I forgot to set the burn speed to low and it run at max speed. It seemed work intermittently so I burnt another map DVD at x4 and it doesn't see it at all. I'm using TDK DVD's.

Change the version number of the update disc.

Make the update disc you make outside the OEM version number scheme, and then just run a OEM v32 to clear the system, before you run new OS.

Burn at slowest rated speed of the blank cd/dvd (not an arbitrary number mate).

the problem that you are facing that you didn't change the version

you have to change the version by hexa program as mention on this post.

I followed the instructions right through and used the hex editor to change the binary code as below.

How should I go about this? By changing the iso file name to something like NAV_SW(v33)?

So if my disks are rated at 1-16x I should burn at 1x? I'm not sure that ultraiso will allow me to go that slow.

Thanks for you help guys, I'm sorry if I'm being rather slow here. I'm just trying to get it all clear.

No thats wont work mate, use a hex editor and change the value of 1000 to 1001.

Discs will have a range of speeds, use the slowest rated (from the list in imgburn).

Do not use ultraiso to burn the disc mate, its crap, use imgburn it gives way more control, (thats why is recommend here).

We all start some where mate, don't worry about it.

Thank you Sir, your a gent.

OK I tried burning the OS iso again with the recommended software and at 1x speed but it didn't work still.

I extracted the sw_rel file from the following location.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/...6637f2f7_o.png


I then opened it with a hex editor and got -

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/...77a788f2_o.png

OK I got some new DVD's and burnt the images at x1 and the installed fine......but no speed cameras and no alerts. WWwwwaaahhhhh :dunno:

I'm getting toward my wits end.

I apologies for, probably silly question, but is it true that in order to get 2010 maps with red cameras to work i have to have a modified v32?

Maybe a bit offtopic but i'm stuck with the follwoing situation:
1. I have x3 06 with MKIV v32 it works with 09 unmodified maps. ( it's not the original disk so i can't say "original maps". )
2. i picked up 09 with red cameras here on forums and 10 w/o cameras. 09 with cams doesn't fit on the 4.7 DVD and the 10 is not working.
I would appreciate any help, please

The 2009-2 disc will work with poison without mods, the 2010 disc need to be modded as poison does not work with it (unless you have my modded files),

I have been over this loads of times in prevoius posts (so won't go over it again here).

For cameras to auto alert and work, you need a modded OS and modded map disc.

aha! thank you ccfj1
I got you OS mod.
//stretching my luck %)
Anyone to share the Map with alerts for the Eastern US, please please please ?

The modded files will probably be the same for the eu and easten eu disc, so I can help you there but, you woukld need to add the cameras via poison yourself mate.

Please.
And i should follow the instructions on the page one of this thread to get the maps working ?

Also, your mod is ( at least the filename) v31 i have 32 - is this a problem or i just need to put it ( your version ) in ?

thank you and i appreciate your help!

OK, let me start again.

1: All the poison modded OS files I make are for the UK ONLY, they are to be used in UK based nav computers, this is because:-

a: the language settings are different for each region
b: making a generic alert version is just not possible (as most want the alert off option).
c: I'm from the UK, so I can test it on my own mk4.
d: I don't know how your mk4 is configured as it different from mine.

That's why page 1 post 1 is a README with downloads not a complete download.

2: There are a few other versions here, USA, Ger, NL and PL, that I've helped on.

3: I only have a Europe 2010-1 HIGH disc, so I have made the mods for this disc (as its the only one I have), this does work with poison (with the mods).

4: I DO NOT HAVE ANY MODS FOR ANY OTHER REGION DISCS, SO I DON'T HAVE USA MODS, I DON'T HAVE MIDDLE EAST MODS, I DON'T HAVE EASTERN EUROPE MODS.

5: If someone wants to upload the disc images (2009 & 2010, for your region), without the 2xDB files, then I will have a look and see if I can help, so no image = no help.

I'm happy to help anyone out but I can't magic disc images for your region out of thin air, so if you want help then you must help me, simple.

6: v31 and v32 are the same image of OS (for the mk4)

HTH

With Your help there is BG version too. Big thanks to You ccfj1.

First map called: "BMW.Road.Map.Europe.HIGH.DVD.20010-01.MULTiLANGUAGE" works with v.32 OEM but crashed with my moded soft, but different (?) version of map "Road_Map_Europe_High_2010_1_updated" works perfect, after poisoning there is visual and sound notification, I also changed map menu to my native language, and added or integrated a lot of extra POI's. So far, so good.

help!!!!!
 

thats all dubble dutch to me mate, is it not posible to download a disk that has all the poi already on? yhanks for the swift reply.

In a word mate, no... but welcome to the forums.

Thanks ccfj1 for your outstanding work!

please can some one share the needed tools!? navspeak poison and any required tool, i tried hard locating the working links , help please!

You can't have looked very hard mate, post 1 in this thread for POISon and post 1 in the navtweak thread for navtweak.

POIson.
http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/...poison.zip.pdf

NavTweak 2.6 (49 KB):
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NavSpeak 1.0 (23 KB):
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Both programs requires the GTK+/Win32 Runtime Environment (5.2 MB):
http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net/

I've tested each link (just now and they all download OK).

Is it necessary to use a modded software version to get speedcams POI in your nav screen, i don't mean the audible, just the POI. I have now the original v32. And i would like to see the speedcams on the screen, i have found some 2010 high one the usenet but they did not have the POI integrated.

No, it will work with OEM OS.

Then you need to mod it with something like PimpMyNav.

Is there somebody who wants to share the modded DVD with me, I would like to have the dutch speedcams mod.

No mate, here is a how to do it yourself

http://www.xoutpost.com/402449-post8.html

thnks

Hi guys, is it possible to add speed cams with POIsON after adding the new POIs with Pimp-My-NAV? Not in the Military Base of course :).

Yes, POISon only uses the military bases, PMN uses the ENG.LSC file to populate the db in the TPD dir structure of the map disc.

They will not conflict.

Thanks again ccfj1 :thumbup:. I asked because of this:
But now I'm calm :).

Edit with PMN first then do the poison hack

Yes, that's what I'm thinking about :).

Hi, all.
I've made all steps in post#1 but I still do not see any SpeedCams on my nav.
MK4 (SW upgrade is done perfectly), Map 2010.
When I'm trying to add pois to the map DB, the files don't change - as I can see from file edit date.

In windows locale settings decimal point delimiter must be set to '.' (dot) not to ',' (comma).

Yes, it's the way it is.
In poison, when I'm making import - poi do import. But when I saving the result DB - I see that DB files didn't update, the file edit date is the same as it was before adding pois.

Heya all,

I am niew here at this forum, didn't know where to introduce myself zo i'm doing it know lol.

I finaly got the mod working and the 2009 DVD.

But Know I whant to mod the 2010 DVD but I understand that you need a patch for it, coud someone help me with this?

Thanx

Hi.

I try do this by instruction :

E:Adding POI to map database:
1. Copy map database from CD/DVD to the hard drive (bibliogr and carindb files are enough fo CD, bibliogr and DB folder for DVD maps).
2. Run poison.exe, open map folder (folder where bibliogr file located)
3. Add your own POI or import from plain lon/lat txt or csv file.
Take a look at http://www.poiplaza.com/index.php?p=...pg=ds&lsts=616
You can use: iGO 8 txt, iGo txt, GARMIN csv, destinator asc, mio asc, navigon asc, route 66 csv and tomtom asc files from there.
4. Save modified database
5. Insert modified database (carindb file of DB folder) back to image using UltraIso.

I select file with speedcams from my C: disc or D: disck,and he dont import it there!
When i select it,and click to open,the screen was empty...

make sure you have . and not , for period. (post 564).

In windows locale settings decimal point delimiter must be set to '.'

Where it is located in Windows 7?

control panel, region and language, additional settings, decimal symbol.

Thank you,now i can import it there!
Now i select output folder,and now poison work!
So how i understand,after that file from output folder i need put to the cd,yes?
And write it.

In output folder i see the date and time of directory DB was changed.
But BIBLIOGR file not changed.
Is it correct?

Correct in cd image, then save image, then burn to cd.

Yes, only DB file has been altered but the other files are needed for POISon.exe.

Big big thanks you for help!!!

Hi,

I have the same problem as here on page 53

I tried poison on 2 machines, but every time poison crashes by opening the DB folder. I have Windows 7 Ultimate, gtk2-runtime-2.22.0-2010-10-21-ash is installed, and the folder are in c:\bmw\ ...decimal setting is down, too.

Any idea? :dunno:

Or could the problem be the DVD 2011? :rolleyes:

Try another GTK, e.g. gtk2-runtime-2.14.7-2009-01-13-ash. For me on Win7 it's working.

POISon will not work with w7 and 2.22.0 mate.

2.14 for posion.exe, and 2.16 for patch.exe

Thank's, working perfert with 2.14 :cool::cool::cool: :thumbup:

Unable to read bibliography file
 

Hi together,

i have the problem that i am trying to put some POI´s on the new
BMW Navi 2011 High Version DVD with Poison.

But the problem is if i am tryng to read the database file with Poison
i always get the error message "Unable to read bibliography file".

Somebody have any idea where i make the mistake.

Greetings

Meminho

Never heard that one before mate...

Mine read straight away, with no problems.

As a test, use the txt files from the 2010 but the db (and db dir) from the 2011 and see if that works.

Thanks, for the quick answer, but still have the same problem. I also try
older versions like 2009 and so on, but not work.

I am using Windows XP with gtk 2.1.4 runtime version. Just for info

In the past i already make my 2009 High Version with Poison and work very well, but no always the same error message.

Greetings

Try a different version of the GTK mate, it could be that.

Problem solve. Thanks for support. My mistake was that i select directly the DB folder by Poison. Should select the folder before the DB folder.

Now it works. Only one question if i delete the language to make the DVD fit on a 4,7GB , its enough to delete the languages or must i make something else any cahnge on it?

greetings

Cool.

Yes, it should be enough, (it is for ENG) you will also need to mod the padding files (or the alert wont work).

Try a couple of DVD, but have no success. Always if i put the burned DVD
in the MK4 it saya always , cant read the CD/DVD.

I just change the DBD file with the original one and delete the other languages, just let the german language.

Burned with slowest burning speed on a verbatim DVD.

Any idea.

Greetings

Try a different disc maker, and also try both DVD-R and DVD+R type discs, could be that the laser is worn on the mk4...

Does the drive read a non modded backup?

Poison works with MK3?
 

Hi
Is Poison for MK3 or only for MK4?

Poison can be used on dvd or cd and it will add "any" poi to the military bases, so while you can load the cameras into the military bases (on the mk3) and select them as a POI, you don't get the alert (or the icon change).

You can not use poison on the mk3 equivalent of the navboot (the usw file), so no alert.

I used my working SW 32 Day/Night (MK4)(X5 car) in my friend's MK3 (X5 car) and the index "NAvigation" disapeared from the menu I put the map Cd but nothing. Do you have any idea?
My fried will kill me
Maybe another sw or OEM for MK3?
Thanks

That is a mk4 **only** image mate, (ie: its mode1), mk3 is mode2/form1 **only**.

You need a OEM or mode2 image mate.

Where can I download a OEM or mode2/form1 image ?
How can I know if it is mode2/form1?
I downloaded V 22, V 27, V 29, V 31 and I burned with magiciso mode2/xa. Is this correct?
Which can I use for MK3?

Here are some mode2 images

Modded
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OEM
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USE IMGBURN mate, do not use any other burning programm, imgburn works 100%.

Unzip, select the image, then check that its mode2/form1, select the slowest rated speed of the blank and burn.

Then hope for the best mate, the mk3 is a fickle beast.

Thanks a lot mate
I will try

Hi all! I have a problem. I had the 2010 road map with voice alerts for radars and it worked fine in my MK4 HIGH, but I updated it with the original BMW road map 2011 (modified with poison in order to add radars) and I have lose "radars category" in the navigation menu. Icons appears, voice alert well, but "Radars" in the navigation menu is missing. Can you help me? Thanks in advance

POISon modded cameras and the POI radar option (in the POI menu) are not the same thing mate, for these you will need to add them, Pimpmynav will do it.

Thanks ccfj. I´ll try

going to give this a go tonight, thanks for the detailed instructions!

woop!
did it and it worked perfect!
only problem now is, i replaced the TMC text with my surname (6 letters) but it only shows the first 2!
doh!

does anyone know what the most amount of letters i can have in this field are?
is it 3?

thanks for all the help guys!

Hi guys...where could i find bmw 2011 high map with poison?!?
Thank U!!

Can someone please help me with the POISoN part of the maps upgrade. Ive updated my OS but now want to use POISoN to add POI to my 2001 maps. Ive installed gtk2-runtime-2.16.6-2009-12-01-ash to C:/program files/GTK2-Runtime/ and ive put the poison.exe and patch.exe files in the /bin folder.

Ive extracted the DB folder from my 2011 High maps disc and have put it (along with the bibliogr and abstract files) on my desktop.

Now heres my problem... poison.exe starts just fine when i open it, and i can click 'forward' but when i try to open the DB folder the database files are greyed out, and when i click 'open', poison crashes.

What am i doing wrong? Im running win7 btw.

Poison.exe will only work on Win7 if you have version 2.14.7 of the GTK libraires, 2.16.6 is for navtweak and navspeak etc.