VW Diesels - Page 5

bawareca · #41 09-25-2015, 09:16 AM

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Ricky Bobby · #42 09-25-2015, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshdub

I don't know if the EPA has that kind of authority

You're correct they don't, and actually in many states, the cars ARE emissions compliant as ithey sit because there is no emissions testing in many states, or the standards are not as high as CARB.

JCL · #43 09-25-2015, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby

You're correct they don't, and actually in many states, the cars ARE emissions compliant as ithey sit because there is no emissions testing in many states, or the standards are not as high as CARB.

I don't think you can claim that they are emissions compliant because of a lack of state testing. They had to be federally compliant to be sold, and they weren't.

For those preferring to opt out of the VW fix and join the 'rolling coal' club, I would expect that relicensing will be a problem, as well as any warranty claims for those still under warranty.

JCL · #44 09-25-2015, 02:22 PM

Heads of development at Audi and Porsche resign.

Meanwhile, back at BMW, an X3 20d exceeds Euro 6 emissions limits by 11 times in an independent road test. BMW denies using defeat devices, as their shares drop 10%.

BMW Drops on Report That X3 Diesel's Emission Exceeded EU Limit - Bloomberg Business

This could be a hit that passenger car diesels don't recover from.

The Real Winner in the VW Diesel Scandal? Hybrid Cars | WIRED

MAK3N3 · #45 09-25-2015, 05:45 PM

Nice time to buy Toureg TDI or Q7 TDI...just saying!

Joshdub · #46 09-25-2015, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL

I don't think you can claim that they are emissions compliant because of a lack of state testing. They had to be federally compliant to be sold, and they weren't.

For those preferring to opt out of the VW fix and join the 'rolling coal' club, I would expect that relicensing will be a problem, as well as any warranty claims for those still under warranty.

Those who opt to not have theirs fixed are far from rolling coal.

JCL · #47 09-25-2015, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MAK3N3

Nice time to buy Toureg TDI or Q7 TDI...just saying!

From a dealer motivation standpoint, absolutely.

From a security of warranty and resale value perspective, time will tell.

Quicksilver · #48 09-25-2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL

From a dealer motivation standpoint, absolutely.

From a security of warranty and resale value perspective, time will tell.

Shopping for a X5 Diesel on Monday. Just checking….

xbimma · #49 09-26-2015, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdub

I don't know if the EPA has that kind of authority

Looking at the notice of violation(posted by JCL above) EPA has a a more important authority in approving vehicle sales in the US. They successfully strong armed VW which was forced to admit cheating.

Joshdub · #50 09-26-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xbimma

Looking at the notice of violation(posted by JCL above) EPA has a a more important authority in approving vehicle sales in the US. They successfully strong armed VW which was forced to admit cheating.

Right. Pulling their certification for importing new cars is not the same as prohibiting registration of used and already in use vehicles. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. While I do believe this will probably all blow over soon, I am glad I don't currently own a TDI due to the up coming potential hassle.

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