The Constitution and the Bill of Rights does NOT "grant" Rights it enumerates them.

But if you really believe what you wrote there then....

Should people (for example) be required to only buy hardback books at a mandated size, font and number of pages? Get permission to purchase a book, sell a book before doing so?

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Personal rights do not allow one to infringe on the personal rights or freedom of another. ~BC

AKA... Muh feelings

The only reason for mandates is because there are so many that resist doing the right thing on their own. ~BC

AKA.... I'm going to make decisions for everyone.

I don't like mandates either but I think those not getting vaccinated or not following the guidelines will ever do so on their own. ~BC

AKA.... My opinion

Apologies to Simon and Garfunkel but... Hello irony my old friend.

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There are no variables for individuals unless the vaccine is not available or for some medical reason they should not be vaccinated. The only ask of individuals around the world is to get vaccinated including the booster and follow the guidelines. So yes is still the answer. If one is not vaccinated and refusing to follow the guidelines they are part of the problem.

Still don't have an answer to my very simple question. I think the reason I don't is that you know you are not doing anything. Avoiding answering the question speaks volumes.

Again, what is your contribution toward getting the pandemic under control? Got another question--How will Covid be controlled if not by vaccination?

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[QUOTE=EODguy;1214535]Personal rights do not allow one to infringe on the personal rights or freedom of another. ~BC

AKA... Muh feelings
It is not an opinion. It is the definition of freedom as stated in the bill of rights. Freedom does not mean one can do anything one wants to do. There are distinct limitations.
The only reason for mandates is because there are so many that resist doing the right thing on their own. ~BC

AKA.... I'm going to make decisions for everyone.
As usual you can't make a post without being rude. I have not made one post that indicates I think I can make a decision for you or anyone else. I am responding to statements that have no scientific foundation. I see it as a debate that I have no investment in the outcome.


I don't like mandates either but I think those not getting vaccinated or not following the guidelines will ever do so on their own. ~BC

AKA.... My opinion Yes, of course, it is my opinion. No different than your comments in this post. However, as an example, when ones decision to not get vaccinated is politically based the writing is on the wall, to be sure it is clear---IMO.

Apologies to Simon and Garfunkel but... Hello irony my old friend.

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I have always liked Simon and Garfunkel. What is the meaning behind the meme? Sure. My comments have no hidden meaning or agenda, Nor do they even imply the opposite of what I post. Often when someone resorts to insults it is an indication that they have exhausted any response that is a constructive or meaningful to the discussion/debate. When one has no valid facts to endorse their position it is easy to become angry or frustrated and lash out. What I do is take a break or prepare a post and read it 3 to 4 hours later to to see if I still want to send it. Same question--What is your contribution to help get the virus under control?

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Personal rights do not allow one to infringe on the personal rights or freedom of another. ~BC


It is not an opinion. It is the definition of freedom as stated in the bill of rights. Freedom does not mean one can do anything one wants to do. There are distinct limitations.

And there's the irony... you want to force people to get vaccinated for "your" protection.

If people can be forced to do things to their bodies that others feel would be beneficial for society then where does it stop? Forced marriage? Forced purchases of insurance? Forced termination of any special needs child?

As people say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. That you can't see the violation of people's Rights is suprising.

As for your belief that insults are because someone doesn't have anything constructive to say is completely wrong as I have used hurting your feelings to get you to admit that forcing people to do something is against their Rights and if you can't understand that even with a Harvard education then I recommend you ask for a refund.

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https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/10/15/liberty-fist-nose/. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...g-coronavirus/
The Harvard link is especially interesting as it is dated but the writers could see what could happen which lines up well with what has happened By the way, mandates work.

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You won't have to be angry about any COVID mandates if you get vaccinated before they're in place.

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You agree that forcing people to do things against their will is a violation of their Rights, but then you completely dismiss your statement with...
"You won't have to be angry about any COVID mandates if you get vaccinated before they're in place."

Amazing that you can be so disingenuous or blind.

As for the things about books, I chose a book as an example of something enumerated by the Bill of Rights and you felt it was one of my reasons and missed the point.
Every single thing I attributed to laws about a book in that statement is and would be against the Bill of Rights yet if you replace the word book with (firearm) then you would realize that they are already in place and ignorant, asinine laws are already trampling peoples Rights and all because of a little bit of "good" intention by dumbasses who have come to believe that 51% agreement means they can change or even curtail the Rights of the people.

We are not a democracy, we are a Republic.

I will say that if a mandate forces someone to (in this case) get an experimental vaccine and they suffer damage or death then I would not have any issues whatsoever if got retribution on those who cost them to lose a parent, husband, wife or child.

You may think some of those ideas of being forced to do other things is an impossibility but already many countries mandate the abortion of special needs children, marriage, etc.

As for stopping the horrible covid19 with a fatality rate of 1% or less... I am unconcerned about what you do or don't do. During the war on terror 10% of EOD troops were killed and almost the same percentage were wounded so I don't worry about some ultra low odds of death from this.

After reading your replies I take it back about you getting a refund from Harvard. I believe they should pay you, to never let anyone know you graduated.



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As I said, you're wasting your time EOD. People this indoctrinated can't be reasoned with, there's no middle ground, you agree with them or you're wrong and deserve to be cancelled.

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