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Old 05-01-2006, 06:09 PM
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Si se puede?

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I just watched the parade. This Green-leaning, socially-moderate, fiscal conservative just got a wake up call.

Si se puede?

No you won’t, if you are here illegally. No you won’t, if you have no desire or motivation to learn the English language. No you won’t, if you march with Mexican and Puerto Rican flags atop of the Stars and Stripes.

No you won’t, if you feel that your mere presence here dictates entitlement to citizenship in this country. No you won’t, if you won’t if it means the Balkanization of America.

No you won’t.

You’ll obey our laws and respect our culture and salute our flag and speak our language or you will remain in whatever Third-World hell-hole you send your untaxed earnings back to.

I’ll pick my own strawberries, pay double for lawn care and wait a month to get that stucco or roofing job if the alternative is a de-facto invasion by people who have little desire to assimilate.

See you at the polls.
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Old 05-01-2006, 06:32 PM
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'yes we can' reminds me of the old Coors Light commercials....

"Because we can can can...because we can can can.."

I agree, no they can't. I love how today was called 'day without immigrants' well last I checked everyone but black slaves 200 years ago and native americans are immigrants to the United States. So a day without immigrants means I should have stayed in bed (stupid German). How about 'day without a Hispanic immigrant' at least that would have been accurate.

Or should have said 'a day without illegals'. I saw a bunch of posters about how much illegal aliens give to the economy, lets discuss how much they take a way: INS, healthcare, benefits real citizens don't get, free education.....and the list goes on. More like blight on the nation in my eyes.

I guess my decendents should have just skipped Ellis Island and moved on in...since I would be given all the same rights anyway....

All today did was hurt any argument posed on why illegals should be citizens. Now as for all the little Hispanic kids that skipped school today, suspended in my eyes but then again...I use too much logic. All children shouldn't have gone to school in protest of the Hispanic kids that left.

Hey, when is 'Day without a Kraut', so I can stay home??
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:49 AM
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I see you put your 700th post to good use. Here, here...

I think that some concession needs to be made for people who have been here for so long and not just ship them out. I agree however, that those that are here should respect our culture, salute our flag and sing the National Anthem in English.
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Old 05-02-2006, 11:35 AM
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It has amazed me how the media has blended the issues. The debate is over Illegals yet most outlets just used the term immigration as the central point. Misleading imo.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:37 PM
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Sigh… we still have a way to go before we can all get along.

One of the demonstrator's sign says it all "no human is an illegal".
With enough time these immigrants will make more of an impact on the American society. Now whether you like it or not that's something else. I'm sorry but its unavoidable these immigrants are here to be part of America.
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Old 05-02-2006, 03:49 PM
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Sigh… we still have a way to go before we can all get along.
Please define "we". The first step to getting along is playing by the rules. By some estimates there are 11 million people in this country who aren't doing so. So let's be clear about who's falling short in the getting along department.

What about the guy who shortcuts to the head of the line at the exit ramp during rush hour? Do you support that behavior? Should we be upset and outraged by his disregard for the rules or should we honor him and his right to diss the rest of us?
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However I predict that they will get what they want whether I like it or not.
Logic does not always seem to prevail. We will be simply outnumbered especailly in California.
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:21 PM
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We will be simply outnumbered especailly in California.
Who is the "we" you refer to? It'd be a push to have a majority of illegal immigrants, so i assume you mean something else?
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:24 PM
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Who is the "we" you refer to? It'd be a push to have a majority of illegal immigrants, so i assume you mean something else?

Probably means 'legal' citizens.
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However I predict that they will get what they want whether I like it or not.
Logic does not always seem to prevail. We will be simply outnumbered especailly in California.
My apologies for ambiguity.
I meant 'we' by US citizens (or who became ones via legal process) who does not believe in mass clemency. At the same time I am conflicted because I also understand how bad it is to polarizing people as us vs. them.
However, my heart is closer to people who persevere through years of adversities to be Americans however bad immigration policy it may be.
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