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Old 08-18-2006, 10:20 AM
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I'm done, not looking at this thread any more. If this was a military site I know the reaction would be much different. i'm leaving this thread with this...

…Dedicated to SSgt James M Ray, who’s no longer MIA…. WELCOME HOME, SON



War is war and war is hell
Clever epithets writers may use
It’s the people of war we shall always dismiss
The ones we will always abuse.

WWI was the battle to end all wars
WWII, the madman who made us fret
Korea, a skirmish that no one remembers
And Nam, that no one can forget.

But there’s always Somolia, Bosnia, Kuwait,
Haiti and of course little Tehran
We’ve had Panama, Lebanon, Sarajevo, Croatia,
Saudi Arabia and annoying Iran.

Leaders of puerile, evil intent
Like Khmer Rouge and Saddam, who are insane
Desert Storm wasn’t enough to settle it down
Hostile situations as these still remain.

WWII ended with celebrations galore
Lavish parties, parades in the street
We patted their backs, welcomed them home
But for Veteran’s this war was no treat.

Vietnam ended, a loud whimper was heard
The political machine had not got its way
No parades for these boys, only spitting and slurs
We figured, Cuz hey, they went, didn’t they?

Somalia a clever trap, Saudi Arabia a brutal rape
Haiti a power hungry need of stakes claimed
Kuwait seemed so short, Sarajevo drags on still
Panama where the wrong humans got blamed.

It matters not which way one may point
The outcome of all this is always the same
For there are never winners and no battle won
When Vets come home, mentally beaten and lame.

It is not the fancy machine that wins the war
Not the uniform of blue, black or tan,
It’s the courage, stamina of our women and men
Which the government usurps when it can.

This is one prevalent issue where my ire gets up
When my need for an Uzi is strong
Brave Veterans were simply doing their jobs
Never EVER tell one what they did there was wrong.

And if you foolishly think for a second
“It’s been years and your war is past!”
You’ve been much too long from a Veteran’s side
Their pain’s a heavy burden, which is vast.

Not only were they once very far from home
Doing a job they were told would win the war
But now they’re abandoned, forgotten as well
Family and friends just don’t give a shit anymore.

It seems to me that it’s been hard enough
To lose your soul just once in your life
But dying again because of a nation’s neglect
No one but Veterans could understand the strife.

Stop pointing fingers, stop placing the blame
Please listen to a Vet when they start to speak
You’ve yet to count up the blessings you have
Of what makes America strong and not weak.

War is war and war is definitely hell
And this saying will always be right
Today stop the ignorance that you possess
And thank God you weren’t required to fight
Yeah and can you post up the Tributes please to your comrades that have been killed by friendly fire from your own military


So dinnae even go there with the higher and mighty attitude.

Apologies to everyone else not meant to offend anyone just trying to get my point over.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:32 AM
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Dinnen don't wary the French Canadians are asses to all the English speaking, that's just how it is and the soldier just relax your safer any where in Europe then in most cities in the us.....relax enjoy your trip .....shit even if you get mugged just think of the great story you'll have.......




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Old 08-18-2006, 10:36 AM
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:41 AM
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If being able to own deadly weapons is a freedom you value, might I suggest moving to a country like Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan or Somalia. In those countries you are free to own any weapon you desire: RPGs, Rockets, etc. You are even free to have your own militia and death squad. Freedom is a wonderful thing.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:02 AM
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If being able to own deadly weapons is a freedom you value, might I suggest moving to a country like Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan or Somalia. In those countries you are free to own any weapon you desire: RPGs, Rockets, etc. You are even free to have your own militia and death squad. Freedom is a wonderful thing.
Typical liberal bullshit.

First of all, define "deadly weapon"? Is fork a deadly weapon? It sure is if used to stab somebody with it. Do you value your freedom to own forks? Is car a deadly weapon? It sure is if used as such (remember that dentist woman that ran over her cheating husband 3 times killing him? Next time you see him, ask him if he thinks a car is deadly weapon). Being a weapon is not a property of an object; it's how that object is used. If criminals used forks to rob people at "fork point" then I would consider a fork to be a sufficient self-defense weapon. Until then, I will enjoy my freedom of being able to defend myself with any weapon equal or superior to what criminals may use against me. Freedom is a wonderful thing.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:12 AM
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you can classify it as "liberal bs" if it makes you feel better but the fact is you are far more likely to have a friendly fire accident with your gun than you are ever to use it against a criminal.

actually never mind, I don't feel like debating the false belief that you are safe having a gun in your home. Let's save that can of worms for another thread.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:29 AM
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actually never mind, I don't feel like debating the false belief that you are safe having a gun in your home.
I'm glad you don't, because you obviously don't know what you're talking about. But yeah, let's save that can of worms for another thread.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:05 PM
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Everyone knows you are statistically more likely to injure yourself then an intruder, why on earth would you want to carry a gun to europle? Furthermore, I think you should BUT make sure i'm present (with popcorn) to watch you get detained, should be the film event of the season!
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:16 PM
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Typical liberal bullshit.

First of all, define "deadly weapon"? Is fork a deadly weapon? It sure is if used to stab somebody with it. Do you value your freedom to own forks? Is car a deadly weapon? It sure is if used as such (remember that dentist woman that ran over her cheating husband 3 times killing him? Next time you see him, ask him if he thinks a car is deadly weapon). Being a weapon is not a property of an object; it's how that object is used. If criminals used forks to rob people at "fork point" then I would consider a fork to be a sufficient self-defense weapon. Until then, I will enjoy my freedom of being able to defend myself with any weapon equal or superior to what criminals may use against me. Freedom is a wonderful thing.
Obviously there are dual-use items that can be used to kill someone. When I said deadly weapon, I was referring to items that were designed specifically to kill.

And yes, us liberals think that killing is bad. I once read something that said "thou shalt not kill". I know you disagree with such liberal ideas. We obviously have a difference in core beliefs and values.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:27 PM
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Typical liberal bullshit.

First of all, define "deadly weapon"? Is fork a deadly weapon? It sure is if used to stab somebody with it. Do you value your freedom to own forks? Is car a deadly weapon? It sure is if used as such (remember that dentist woman that ran over her cheating husband 3 times killing him? Next time you see him, ask him if he thinks a car is deadly weapon). Being a weapon is not a property of an object; it's how that object is used. If criminals used forks to rob people at "fork point" then I would consider a fork to be a sufficient self-defense weapon. Until then, I will enjoy my freedom of being able to defend myself with any weapon equal or superior to what criminals may use against me. Freedom is a wonderful thing.
Typical Neocon Bullshit.
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