Does this mean that you know better and thick that the current norm has "spiraled out" and is wrong?

I think we back to you knowing better and running the country.

Ok so a thirteen year old should be allowed to go to school with her bra strap and thong hanging out because all the guys no longer find this provocative? Subsequently, when she decides she WANTS to dress provocatively she will just wear the bra with no top, and this is ok too because she is just utilizing her freedom of expression??


The democratic system DID say that it is indecent..........i.e. the school board

Now please.........

The bottom line is there is an excessive lack of respect from many young people today. That is not a respectful way to dress and they could do better/more mature things to show their individuality. Set standards at the schools & if a student violates the standards they will then be required to wear a school uniform for 90 days. Every principal should have a military background to ensure strict enforcement of standards!

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The school board is far from democratic.


PS I think most bikini tops are the same or less than a bra and I don't mind looking.

I think you are missing point we need the democratic system to set rules not a small local group of like minded people. If we are not careful we will become the closed minded religious fundamental seltitz that are terrorizing the world.

except for the military background I could just see it now "Drop down and gime 20" but in any case this is what I am talking about, it all starts with kids. If they start dressing respectfully and acting respectfully from that age then we can over generations get back to the kind of standards that were set earlier where children did not talk back to parents did not go killing parents do not steal and lie but an educated society. Look at Europe once again, granted they do not have all the luxuries we do here but they are also not spoiled, they know how to appreciate what they have, they value money and are not loose like some are here. Of course its not like that everywhere and you have your bad in every culture and country but it starts from the hospital the day you are born and if parents cant do it right someone has to.

The point wasnt that you or I mind looking, I dont mind looking I could care less if they didnt wear a bra and/or thong and/or bikini top/bottom but at 14 15 16 its just plain out wrong. I dont care if they watch porn or at least nudity because in most industrial and modern countries its not a taboo, Mulin Rouge for example allows kids 6+ to see the show where the girls wear no tops and thongs but that society is not so sex hungry. You can walk down the street and look at pictures of girls who perform at strip clubs there and they are pretty graphic where as here playboy magazines and the likes are hidden well behind the counter, alcohol is dissallowed until 21, smoking until 18, but ask yourself WHY? and the answer shall be that we allowed kids to blow this out of proportion due to lack of respect, lack of education and just plain lack of class.

So x54.4blue you believe everyone should just do what they want, whenever they want to whom ever they want. Mob ( Democratic rule). Correct?

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a group of like minded or at least similarly minded people is a pre-requisite for a democracy .

As for your slippery slope argument, give me a break. It is a long way from enforcing a minimum basic dress code to blowing up airplanes and buildings. Not too many people out there willing to martyr themselves over the right to dress trashy.

Neither is IBM or any other organization who has rules that must be followed. Anyone has a right to express themselves but if you work for IBM or wish to be a part of and organization that has rules then you have a choice obey or leave. Simple.

I'm sure we all respect your opinion regarding bikini tops but your opinion is not being considered by this school board so it dosn't matter.


Actually we are not missing the point. We are hoping more rules are set in place so that young people who have no sense of class will taught some class and decency. I know you can appreciate that can you not???

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