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Old 09-18-2006, 06:12 PM
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January 2005 Cease fire reached.

July 2005 Palestinian suicide bomber blows himself up at Israeli shopping mall. Kills 5 wonding 30.

Aug 2005 Palestinian suicide bomber blows himself up at Beersheba's central bus station, wounding at least 20.

Oct 2005 Palestinian suicide bobmer blows himself up at Hader market. 6 dead 30 wounded.

Dec 2005 Palestinian suicide bomber blows himself up, kills 5 wounds 35.


You're right there have been NO attacks on Israel.

The source of this information is found in the link you supplied the the Guardian Unlimited.
I appolgize. I should have said "no attacks by Hamas on Israel. All of the attacks you mention were by Islamic Jihad which is based in the West Bank, not by Hamas which is based in Gaza.
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:13 PM
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right so lets have them build up the means to attact and on the 17th month let them at it. Great tactic, love it. You do realize that 16 months is all nice and dandy but there were other cease fires in the past and those went down the shitter and it was is and always will be a matter of time. Egypt and Jordan are countries not organizations that have no central point. You can come after that country if they cease to obey, with hamas and palestinians they are like roaches, they crawl out from under every rock and from around every corner
So what exactly is Israel's end goal here and how do they hope achieve it? Why even negotiate a cease fire is your intention is not to honor it?
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:15 PM
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nothing offensive about the mein kampf comments considering how much he refers to nazi conspiracies. For all we know according to Eric, since everything is a conspiracy, what went down in history with nazi internment camps and Hitler could all be a conspiracy too.
Now you have lost me. Please explain what you think the word conspiracy means.

To me (and according to the dictionary), the word conspiracy means "more than one person involved".
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Oh, please, Eric. The June 9th incident wasn't an airstrike, the beach on Gaza was shelled by an Israeli Navy vessel. There weren't 10 victims; there were 8 Palestinians killed, including seven members of the same family, and injured 32 civilians, including 13 children.

For someone obviously dedicated to the truth, at least check your facts before perpetuating even more fiction.

What happened in Gaza on this day pales in comparison to Israel's bombing of Lebanon in the months following the June escalation of violence. Many members of this board has already gone on record denouncing these actions.

I'm having a real tough time trying to figure out what your agenda is. So far, my guess is that you're trying to change the world, and your starting point is a BMW automotive discussion board. What's even more hilarious is that the only folks who respond to you are the ones who aren't sitting on the fence, they are diametrically opposed to your arguments, and are firmly ensconced in their positions.

What you're doing is blowing air into an inner tube that has a hole in it.

I'm neither trying to encourage or discourage you from posting on any subject. Just making the comment that it seems all so pointless.
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:27 PM
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And those attacks didn't jeopardize the cease fire?
Nope. Not at all.
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I appolgize. I should have said "no attacks by Hamas on Israel. All of the attacks you mention were by Islamic Jihad which is based in the West Bank, not by Hamas which is based in Gaza.
they are all the same their end goal is the same get it ?
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Old 09-18-2006, 07:52 PM
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they are all the same
Reminds me of hearing him say that about "Japs" and "Chinks".





And no, they are not all the same. If they were the same, then there would not be 2 organizations, there would be one. Just because you make a treaty with one organization does not mean that you automatically have a treaty with the other.



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their end goal is the same
These two also had the same end goal. Are they also the same?

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And no, they are not all the same. If they were the same, then there would not be 2 organizations, there would be one. Just because you make a treaty with one organization does not mean that you automatically have a treaty with the other.
I'm sorry I thought the ceasefire was between The Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon and the Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas. Isn't the Palestinian leadership responsible for what goes on in their country?
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I'm sorry I thought the ceasefire was between The Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon and the Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas. Isn't the Palestinian leadership responsible for what goes on in their country?
yup except there is no country and he is just a puppet but yes exactly my point they are all the same
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