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Old 10-31-2006, 12:54 AM
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MiCkEy.. Camera thoughts?

Hey -

I'm thinking about getting either the Canon 5D or the 1D MkIIn to replace my aging 10D. Have you played with either? I like the idea of the FF on the 5D (love it when prime lenses are, well, prime). The 1D is big and heavy, but is supposed to take superb shots. Thoughts?



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5D. No question about it.

I would take a bigger sensor of the 5D over the MarkIIn any day.

It will have Less noise and it is almost a full frame (actual) 35mm sensor. I am waiting for something similar that I can afford. Plunking down close to $3K for something I know would be available for less than $1500K in 6 months time does not make sense to me. That is also the reason I sold my 300D and the sale was good. I need a full frame sensor and no crop (crap) factor. You can not go wrong with the 5D. Oh Oh and it is lighter too I think.
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If you shoot sports or action, the 5D might not be your camera as it maxes at 3fps.

Also, while the 5D has a higher megapixel count, the pixel density on a 30D is higher, which might be better for you depending on what type of photography you like.

For the record, i'm in the same boat as you, i have a 10D (it's in my brief case as we speak with a 28 1.8 attached), but I'm wary of canon coming out with the uber 5D in February at Photokina, so i'm waiting. My 10D has a lot left in it, and still takes great pictures.

just a thought...

by the way, canon has a $300 rebate on the 5D right now and if you buy another item on the rebate list, you get double the rebate, i.e. $600 off.

If you want a 5D now is the time to get it, BUT, remember, a 30D has 5fps.
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Where did you find this?

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the pixel density on a 30D is higher
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If you shoot sports or action, the 5D might not be your camera as it maxes at 3fps.

Also, while the 5D has a higher megapixel count, the pixel density on a 30D is higher, which might be better for you depending on what type of photography you like.

For the record, i'm in the same boat as you, i have a 10D (it's in my brief case as we speak with a 28 1.8 attached), but I'm wary of canon coming out with the uber 5D in February at Photokina, so i'm waiting. My 10D has a lot left in it, and still takes great pictures.

just a thought...

by the way, canon has a $300 rebate on the 5D right now and if you buy another item on the rebate list, you get double the rebate, i.e. $600 off.

If you want a 5D now is the time to get it, BUT, remember, a 30D has 5fps.
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Plunking down close to $3K for something I know would be available for less than $1500K in 6 months time does not make sense to me.
I have a "rewards" card from one of our tech vendor for selling a bunch of their stuff that has enough points to get a 5D and a couple of L lenses, but it expires in January. Talk about timing...
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would it cover 2 X 5Ds?

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I have a "rewards" card from one of our tech vendor for selling a bunch of their stuff that has enough points to get a 5D and a couple of L lenses, but it expires in January. Talk about timing...
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Where did you find this?

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the pixel density on a 30D is higher
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Think about it. FF at 12MP vs. 1.6 at 8.2... simple math.
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Found this while reading about 30D:

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Canon EOS 30D/20D or EOS 5D?
Whether you go for a 30D/20D or a 5D depends a lot on what you shoot and how large a print you want to make. If you don't need the 5fps of the 30D/20D and if ultimate image quality is your primary concern, the Canon EOS 5D is an excellent camera and is certainly capable of yielding higher quality images than the EOS 30D/20D. It's only bettered by the EOS 30D/20D if you're a wildlife shooter working at the limits of your telephoto lens. If you need to crop the EOS 5D images because your lens isn't long enough (and for wildlife shooters, no lens is really long enough most of the time!), then the EOS 30D/20D should yield better images due to the higher pixel density. However if you're shooting portraits or landscapes, or anything else where you aren't limited by the maximum focal length of your lens, and you are making large prints, then the full frame sensor and higher pixel count of the EOS 5D will yield better images, though it will cost you around $1600 more. For the average shooter, making prints from uncropped images no larger than 11x14, it might be difficult to tell much difference between the results from the EOS 5D and EOS 30D/20D, given the use of equal quality lenses. However for larger prints or prints from images which have been cropped, the larger sensor and additional pixels of the EOS 5D can yield higher quality images.

Another advantage of the EOS 5D is that, being full frame, it allows full frame lenses like the EF 16-35/2.8L their full wideangle potential. Those worried about the long term value of EF-S series lenses for APS-C sized sensors (like those in the 20D/30D) if Canon eventually go all "full frame" won't have that concern if they buy full frame lenses and own an EOS 5D.

taken from: http://photo.net/equipment/canon/20D...D_vs_D200.html

Some very good comparison on the site. I do see the 5D has a bigger (larger) buffer size as well but no AF assist.
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Here ya go:

"If you need to crop the EOS 5D images because your lens isn't long enough (and for wildlife shooters, no lens is really long enough most of the time!), then the EOS 30D/20D should yield better images due to the higher pixel density."



I trust Phil Askey's reviews from dpreview.com:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d/
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