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Old 04-24-2007, 07:07 PM
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Says the guy who drives a BMW SUV with a Premium package. Newsflash Eric...By definition you ARE one of the wealthy few on this planet.
Not even close. I'm not sure if I even make the top 50% of Americans. I'm talking about the top 0.1% or maybe even fewer.
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:29 PM
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Not even close. I'm not sure if I even make the top 50% of Americans. I'm talking about the top 0.1% or maybe even fewer.

Pretty sure someone in Iraq would consider you LOADED.
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Pretty sure someone in Iraq would consider you LOADED.
If you are talking lifestyle, then perhaps. If you are talking net worth, then hardly. Most Americans (myself included) live far above their means. The net worth of more than half of Americans (I think the number is 60%) is negative. And the top 1% have more wealth than the bottom 82%.

This is why I am actually in favor of the Fair Tax proposal. It actually taxes wealth (i.e. spending of wealth) rather than income. It will shift the burden of tax further upstream, back to how it used to be before the tax brackets all merged together.
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Old 04-24-2007, 08:32 PM
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Lifestyle buddy, lifestyle.
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Just to show you how ludicrous of an idea this is, name some wars not including the US & Israel, where one of the countries involved was fighting a defensive war on the other country's soil. There have been hundreds of wars in history, so surely you can name a few where this was the case.
Why are you excluding US and Israel from the possible answers? Do they not count?

And I could very easily and correctly argue against your question with a simple answer. Now listen up Eric, I'll say this once, very clearly and slowly so you can understand.

-ANY war, in which a country was attacked, and that country continues to fight the war on foreign soil, is fighting a defensive war.
I would say WWII is a direct example of this. Germany vs. Russia.
or how about the war between the IRA and the UK?

Should I go on?
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Well Eric...Which floor do you live on in this example?

"This graphic shows the distribution of gross annual household income. The building's thirty exposed floors are easily divided into quintiles, each income quintile represented by six floors. Each floor represents the tenth of a third (3.33%) of households in the US, and each section of 10 floors represent roughly one third of American society. The floors above the top black line represent those households with incomes of or exceeding $100,000. The floors below the bottom black line, however, represent those households who fell below the poverty threshold. In order to live on the top floor of the American income strata, a household's annual gross income needs to exceed $200,000."
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Well Eric...Which floor do you live on in this example?

"This graphic shows the distribution of gross annual household income. The building's thirty exposed floors are easily divided into quintiles, each income quintile represented by six floors. Each floor represents the tenth of a third (3.33%) of households in the US, and each section of 10 floors represent roughly one third of American society. The floors above the top black line represent those households with incomes of or exceeding $100,000. The floors below the bottom black line, however, represent those households who fell below the poverty threshold. In order to live on the top floor of the American income strata, a household's annual gross income needs to exceed $200,000."
This is a chart showing income, not wealth. It has nothing to do with what I posted. As I said before, more than half of Americans have a negative net wealth.
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Sure Eric...Tell someone making $15 an hour that a six figure income is not wealth.

Besides, much of the so called wealth in America you are referring to is inherited.

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Besides, much of the so called wealth in America you are referring to is inherited.
Most of it is inherited.
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