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Old 05-01-2007, 01:31 AM
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Well Eric...I pictured you for a selective enforcement kind of guy. I'm happy to hear you believe we should enforce the laws on the books.

Join us in the fight to deport and arrest illegal aliens and put away drug offenders.

Or is what you just said above Bull Sheit?
No, that is what I believe. I don't agree with all the laws, and definately think some should be changed, but if you have a law on the books, either get rid of it (change the law) or else enforce it. Ignoring it is just stupid.

As for drug offenders, I've never heard someone express an opinion that not enough of them are being put away. Just the opposite, most people complain that too many drug offenders are cluttering up the prison system. We have more people per capita in prison than any other country in the world. Here in New York State, the population hasn't changed much since 1970. In 1970, New York State had 7 prisons. Today we have 73, and are still building new ones every year.

What you have to understand is that crime is not a cause but a symptom. To eliminate it, you must prevent it, not only deal with it once it happens. All too often people only want to "fight" crime, and not deal with the underlying causes of crime. The result of that is that one out of every 100 Americans is behind bars.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:06 AM
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You won't get no support from me on this one either. Personally with MD. One thing your right about there are a few old farts around here who #1 prefer not hearing a potty mouth and #2 believe respecting women is important.

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Your age and, most importantly, your immaturity is showing.

You started this thread with your incredulity about women's
sufferage.

Jokes are fun; giving women a couple of black eyes is not.
Grow up. Get Real.
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thank you soccer junkie.........im sure u understand that i was just bored and decided to stir up the old pot....nothings funnier than a bunch of old farts bitching about their emotions...
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Old 05-01-2007, 05:50 AM
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Here we go

- I think MD took it a little personally on the joke front, but since this is a public arena, public responses are to be expected.

- Quick had his own public comments, which are fine.

- Seems WhiteWhipperSnapper took the responses a little personally instead of just brushing them off for what they're worth.

Bottom line, not everyone is going to think your sh_t is funny. Don't cry about it when you find that out.
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I am with MD and supporters.

I don't think there was anything funny about it, and that it was offensive. Yes, it is a public forum, but a modicum of respect never hurt anybody.

Whitewhippersnapper, it isn't about us telling you what to laugh at, you can laugh at whatever you like. It is about you broadcasting material that has no place in society.

If that makes me an old fart, then so be it. I just thought it made us human.
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thank you soccer junkie.........im sure u understand that i was just bored and decided to stir up the old pot....nothings funnier than a bunch of old farts bitching about their emotions...
What did i get myself into here. I thought u're jokes were funny and people were over reacting a little bit. Calling guys old farts implies that their opinions are worth less than yours so the old fart comment was uncalled for. I do not support physical abuse against women even though sean connery says that it is warranted when the time is right

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Everyone has certian subjects that are thier "sacred cows" things that for whatever reason trigger responses such as this...remeber this is a public forum...thats right kiddies publik 4um...which means that people may not always agree with your opinion...that goes for both sides on this thing...you always have the choice to read something or not...you chose to read it didn't like it? fine...feel that it was in poor taste? say something! then leave the thread instead of trying to force your opinion on others if you are posting multiple times then hey you are now an active participant in the tread that offended you...it's the internet do you honestly think your opinion is really going to matter to another person?
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:21 PM
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No sacred cows in my backyard...just common, human sense.
Sometimes common sense isn't so common.
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No sacred cows in my backyard...just common, human sense.
which is as arbitrary as common levels of decency...and obviously you do have a "sacred cow" about this issue because that is a tremendously old joke...granted a joke in poor taste but a joke just the same...if this was not your "sacred cow" then it would not have caused your overreaction.
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Old 05-01-2007, 05:24 PM
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Head, I'm gonna take an El Paso on this continual rhubarb and
arm wrestle, after my last 2Cts...

Let me say this, clearly to you and, to anyone else:

Abusing women, or men, in a marriage or relationship, or in
some manner not defending oneself, is not OK, imo.

My wife was abused so obviously I am aware/sensitive
to that situ, normal, abnormal...take your fookin pick.

As to my "overreaction": I have never molested a kid nor,
was I molested as a kid, yet I wouldn't find child molestation
"jokes" funny either. I was never screwed over or, to my knowledge,
screwed over someone based on their/my veneer color. Yet, I don't
find racial jokes very funny, either.

My point is: the OP was incredulous about Women's Sufferage coming
officially so "late" after the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and it turned into
some jokes and commentary. One of those jokes I objected to, as giving
a women 2 shiners was, imo, not a funny joke, nor something to be joked
about and made light of...

And, here we are, with who struck John and who's on first.

My point was and is, that abusing a spouse or partner is not the
human way to proceed in a relationship; yes, it happens. To make
light of it in a snidely, vacuous manner is off base, In My Opinion.

Sorry if I missed that "old joke" the first few times around.

I'm done with this thread. There may be other comment and, opins are
certainly like azzholes, but I'm through with this.
Good Luck, mD
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