If they keep throwing the R word around we're going to have one because it's so scary to people, they stop spending.... NOT hard to figure out, If I hear the R word one more time I'm going to scream

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I'm pretty sure everyone who is paying attention expects a recession of some sort. Pull all of our troops from every point in the World and become an isolationist Nation and you will see much worse in store for America.

why? what will happen?? terrorists will not have reson to attack ? banks will not be able to make money off wars? oil companies will lose controll of source of power? if american forces will stay home they will be able to protect us, not oil and money that is used to take away our liberties and control government

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Read your own History...Ukrainians suffered horrible losses during WWII under Stalin and Hitler. What would the history books say if the United States stayed at home instead of fighting against oppression? What would the world be like today if Hitler and Stalin were allowed to run free in Europe? How important was it for the Untied States to maintain a presence in Europe post WWII?

Facts hurt...But don't let history get in the way of your rhetoric.

lol, i know my history very well, i know how many Ukrainins died , 7-9 mil at least in winter 1933 from hunger only, thats about 1/4 of total population back then thanks to Stalin.....

WW2 is completely different from that is happening right now, you think Saddam could take over Europe, or Midde East?
No major country will start anything after Nukes were created, if USA invades Iran that will be begining of WW3, because i know for sure that they will retaliate, and not only there, but here using dirty bombs in OUR major cities. they will unite all muslims that USA invaded and ocupied and then Americans will know what war smells like.


As for Hitler, that nutcrack had to be stopped thinking that Aryan race is dominant, and the rest were nothing...... FDR couldnt wait to get involved in WW2 because of the pressure from banks who would make tons of money from it (like any other war USA is involved in)..... Rockefeller was already selling additives to Hitler from Standart Oil company he owned that allowed german planes to fly and bomb England.

sorry if its hard to read or understand i'm barely awake

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I think that's not the reason you make no sense...

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Actually WWII and Hitlers rise in Germany was a direct result of the BS pulled on Germany during the end of WWI. Do you know in WWI that Germany, the nation, was completely 100% under control of the Germans and that Germany believed it was signing an armistice to remove its troops and end the war in other lands. However, France and others decided to turn the table on that one capitalizing on the foreseen uprisings by Germans in Germany. As a result Germany's infrastructure was controlled by outside forces when German lands had NEVER been taken. That is where Hitlers true power came from.

Back to the topic. Recession today will be 10 fold harder to resolve then in the 1980's. Trade agreements by the US government have crippled the nation. These trade agreements led to outsourcing to compete and also drove foreign currency up, and the US dollar down. No amount of spending right now by consumers would help because the majority (vast majority) of the products are made in other countries. The trade policy has driven the nation to recession. We probably could have survived a real estate drop (as we have in the past) if we had a strong internal business structure. However the drive to compete by US businesses with foreign trade policies has led to the crumbling of the very systems that would have pulled the US out of recession. That is why foreign economies are currently so worried about the US economy. So much is now based on trade agreements.


PS: How you get to a WWIII:

Iran is attacked by Western forces, Russia then gets involved aiding Iran followed by China as the US recession crushed Chinas capability to operate and desperately needs alliances. Pakistan becomes over-run by the Taliban and 'insurgent style' forces. India, in its own serious depression as a result of the US recession, is determined to protect itself from Pakistan allies with the US. Japan changes policy to ally with the US against China, Syria then declares war on Israel and Lebanon, Saudi Arabia declares war on Iran...and so forth and so on........years later when it is all said and done you still will have Russia, US, Japan and China.....kind of pointless. The smart ones would be all of those living in South America.

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[QUOTE=Wagner]Actually WWII and Hitlers rise in Germany was a direct result of the BS pulled on Germany during the end of WWI. Do you know in WWI that Germany, the nation, was completely 100% under control of the Germans and that Germany believed it was signing an armistice to remove its troops and end the war in other lands. However, France and others decided to turn the table on that one capitalizing on the foreseen uprisings by Germans in Germany. As a result Germany's infrastructure was controlled by outside forces when German lands had NEVER been taken. That is where Hitlers true power came from.


Are u talking about the Treaty of Versailles? The treaty undermined the german economy and led to political unrest... The resulting unemployment and high inflation diminshed the middle class...These circumstances led young men to believe in the nazi party... the nazi party eventually ran the economy as well...

The Treaty of Versailles is an extensive document.. the following link is an interesting read and shows how little the americans(usa) contributed to WW1 in terms of loss of life
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...versailles.htm

back to the potty training

[QUOTE=soccerjunky]The Armistice was pre-Versailles.

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.