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Why would you need a gun in 15 minutes? Heck...I buy things all the time online and wait for delivery. I can certainly wait 10 days for a handgun background check. Allowing guns to be purchased like chewing gum is not the right move and I'm all for gun rights for law abiding people. There were a few others I had problems with as well but this one was the most egregious on the list. |
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The presumption seems to be that people aren't fit to own weapons, and that a background check is what makes them fit. It should be the other way around-- the presumption should be that you're fit to own/purchase said firearm, and that a background check disqualifies you. This logic, sadly, escapes most of the anti-gun crowd. I think this is just a matter of placing priorities in different areas. As I stated earlier, I value convenience over security. (I presume that these two items exist on a spectrum, with convenience at one end and total security at the other. Since total security is an impossible objective, and since there is little value in having it in the first place, I value what is at least attainable and suggest that we create processes to add convenience where possible.) There's no waiting period to buy a car, a set of steak knives, or a baseball bat-- all of which can inflict the same extent of damage to a person. There likewise should be no mandatory 10 day waiting period to buy a firearm. Require a firearm safety education course before purchasing the first gun. But beyond that, there is no reason to inconvenience a firearm purchaser any further. I have yet to hear of a clear, convincing argument in favor of waiting periods. I haven't seen any statistics that show where communities are made any safer by instituting a waiting period. Waiting periods don't reduce crimes; it is just simple political fodder to make people feel safer. In this case perception doesn't match up with reality. There is no justification to essentially suspend a person's right to legally possess a firearm for 10 days just so the state can needlessly pry into a person's background. Time and attention should be spent catching and punishing the guilty, not persecuring the innocent law abiding citizens. (Keep in mind that those who go through the 10 day waiting period are obviously not criminals, as if they were they wouldn't bother legally purchasing a weapon at a gun shop to begin with.) |
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...well said, Doc!As for the waiting period: I have no beef with a reasonable time frame for the BG check. Shouldn't take a month nor, should it necessarily happen in 10 mins. The "gov't" doesn't work quite like the gang on '24' does... Hellsbells, the VA Statie revenue cops take more than 15 mins to run a license when they pinch a tourist driving through the revenue state,
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Here is why...It takes thought in advance. This removes the spur of the moment hand gun purchase for people who might make a reactionary decision to do someone harm. I realize that people could still plan an assault with a 10 day waiting period; however, psychological studies have shown this reduces violent acts for people who snap or might be susceptible to rash decisions. Yes...People will always break the law and making guns inaccessible to law abiding citizens places them at risk. Criminals never obey the laws and you force law abiding citizens to break the law to protect themselves by making guns illegal. That said you need to be sensible and some laws and restrictions are necessary considering the society we live in and the differing levels of responsibility which exist among our citizens. |
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we have a couple guns, however I'm not 21 yet so I can't buy ammo for handguns in the state of Florida and there are no handguns allowed in DC, so it is very prohibitive to going to the range (which I enjoy greatly). However, this being said I've already taken the concealed weapons classes and passed the test so the day I turn 21 I only have to get fingerprinted for the license.
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That SIG collection is QUITE the collection!!!!! Very impressive, almost to the point of being unreal! I'm jealous, and they're just handguns.
And I just picked this up from my grandfather on the way home from the range, 1944 us army 1911... As to waiting periods, a couple of the guns that I bought were spur of the moment purchases (and I'm glad that I purchased them). I shouldn't have to wait 10 days to buy something. The full background check (I am FOR THIS) takes literally 15 seconds to run a name through the computer, and the paperwork takes another couple of minutes. That's more time than I want to spend in a store where I tend to buy things just being in the general vicinity!
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Nice 1911 svh! That one is a true collector's piece. It even has "U.S. Army" stamped on it. It looks to be in remarkable condition for a 64 year old pistol. Keep that thing locked up tight!
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Next Sig will probably be a "Hello Kitty" version for my wife lol
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