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Old 03-11-2008, 10:26 AM
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utah driver gets the taser gun

cop forgot to tell the driver he was under arrest so he got a $40,000 settlement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMaMYL_shxc

right before he got tasered the driver kept reaching into his right pocket...but cop was a little weak
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:52 AM
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that dude fell like a bowling pin. STRIKE!
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:15 PM
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I cannot feel sorry for the driver. He was a dumbass. He had PLENTY of warning. He couldn't follow a simple instruction to turn around and put his hands behind his back?!?! Amazing how well the taser works.

He should have had a V1 and may have not been in that situation in the first place.
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I usually fall on the side of the police and give them the benefit of the doubt but this was a case of excessive force. This officer was way out of line and needs to learn some people skills. Sure the driver was being stubborn but the force level used by the officer was not in line with the threat. He was with his wife and kid and did not seem to be under the influence of alcohol, drugs or psychotic in any way.
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:39 PM
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I usually fall on the side of the police and give them the benefit of the doubt but this was a case of excessive force. This officer was way out of line and needs to learn some people skills. Sure the driver was being stubborn but the force level used by the officer was not in line with the threat. He was with his wife and kid and did not seem to be under the influence of alcohol, drugs or psychotic in any way.
What level of force would you suggest? Have you ever been tasered? Very unpleasant for 5 seconds, but then it is over. No residual effects (other than change in attitude, and a great desire not to experience the Taser again).
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:04 PM
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What level of force would you suggest? Have you ever been tasered? Very unpleasant for 5 seconds, but then it is over. No residual effects (other than change in attitude, and a great desire not to experience the Taser again).
How is this for starters:

Sir...If you don't comply with my order I will place you under arrest! Move to the back of your vehicle and place your hands flat on the window. At no point prior to the stun gun was the guy told he would be arrested. That usually gets most peoples attention. He then could have explained that signing the ticket does not admit guilt and he had the right to protest the citation in court.

I agree the guy was aggravating the officer and could have prevented this event by being more cooperative. There is a difference between being difficult and being a threat. It was obvious he did not expect the reaction from the officer and wanted to get away from the threat of being stunned. Big mistake. Also...His attitude changed and he was very cooperative after the stun event (expectable) however, the officer continued in a hostile and unprofessional manner in my opinion.

As for being stunned...Yes I have. My wife and I have stun guns we carry in our cars and I had her stun me to show her how to apply it and see the effects. It was not a fun couple of seconds and I buckled like a jellyfish on dry land.

Anyway...The response was overkill considering the video and the fact that he was with his wife and kid.
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:10 PM
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How is this for starters:

Sir...If you don't comply with my order I will place you under arrest! Move to the back of your vehicle and place your hands flat on the window. At no point prior to the stun gun was the guy told he would be arrested. That usually gets most peoples attention. He then could have explained that signing the ticket does not admit guilt and he had the right to protest the citation in court.

I agree the guy was aggravating the officer and could have prevented this event by being more cooperative. There is a difference between being difficult and being a threat. It was obvious he did not expect the reaction from the officer and wanted to get away from the threat of being stunned. Big mistake. Also...His attitude changed and he was very cooperative after the stun event (expectable) however, the officer continued in a hostile and unprofessional manner in my opinion.

As for being stunned...Yes I have. My wife and I have stun guns we carry in our cars and I had her stun me to show her how to apply it and see the effects. It was not a fun couple of seconds and I buckled like a jellyfish on dry land.

Anyway...The response was overkill considering the video and the fact that he was with his wife and kid.
I'll agree that what you describe as the usual discussion would generally be appropriate. Plus, you get extra points for "taking the ride", even if it was only a consumer version stun gun.
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I'll agree that what you describe as the usual discussion would generally be appropriate. Plus, you get extra points for "taking the ride", even if it was only a consumer version stun gun.
Yeah...I would not have volunteered to test out the law enforcement model with the projectile prongs. I'm guessing that left an impression on him mentally and physically.

My personal advice when getting pulled over. Yes sir, No sir, both hands on the wheel. No reaching in the glove box or under the seats for documentation unless he or she asks. Also don't lie...If you are speeding chances are the officer already knows. Lying only implies the officer is lying or a fool.

Also..I keep my paperwork in the drivers side visor which conveniently covers my hardwired V1 radar detector when pulled down. I am also respectful where I pull over being sure to take into account the safty of the officer having to stand at my drivers window. One last thing I do is at night I turn on my interior light when I pull over. That way he can see inside the entire vehicle on approach.

I'm in Business Development/Sales in a large territory. I drive long distances some of which is quite rural in Northern California. I have no tickets in 10 years and I've been pulled over about 7 times in that period. 6 of the events ended with a warning to slow down and the 7th I was pulled over by a CHP who already let me off earlier that month. I was able to take Drivers ED on-line to remove that one ticket from my driving record.

Usually the V1 gives me enough advance lead time to slow down and since the birth of my son I'm watching my speed. As you BMW owners know 10 miles an hour over the speed limit seems slow in a BMW. We really should have our own posted limits all things considered.
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:16 PM
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Yeah...I would not have volunteered to test out the law enforcement model with the projectile prongs. I'm guessing that left an impression on him mentally and physically.

My personal advice when getting pulled over. Yes sir, No sir, both hands on the wheel. No reaching in the glove box or under the seats for documentation unless he or she asks. Also don't lie...If you are speeding chances are the officer already knows. Lying only implies the officer is lying or a fool.

Also..I keep my paperwork in the drivers side visor which conveniently covers my hardwired V1 radar detector when pulled down. I am also respectful where I pull over being sure to take into account the safty of the officer having to stand at my drivers window. One last thing I do is at night I turn on my interior light when I pull over. That way he can see inside the entire vehicle on approach.

I'm in Business Development/Sales in a large territory. I drive long distances some of which is quite rural in Northern California. I have no tickets in 10 years and I've been pulled over about 7 times in that period. 6 of the events ended with a warning to slow down and the 7th I was pulled over by a CHP who already let me off earlier that month. I was able to take Drivers ED on-line to remove that one ticket from my driving record.

Usually the V1 gives me enough advance lead time to slow down and since the birth of my son I'm watching my speed. As you BMW owners know 10 miles an hour over the speed limit seems slow in a BMW. We really should have our own posted limits all things considered.
I have to agree with you. The driver could have been a little more cooperative, but that cop was over the line. I like how the cop lied to the other officer at the end of the video when he asked what happended. The cop said he informed the driver he was going to taze him. I never heard that warning. I am no expert in law enforcement, but it would seem like the cop made a few mistakes.

By the way MrLabGuy, pulled over that many times and only 1 ticket! Do you keep a stash of hundred dollar bills in your glove compartment for special occasions? I have not had as much luck with the warnings.
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:23 PM
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The guy got what he deserved and the court system wimped out by paying him.
So, every jackhole who breaks the law and harasses law enforcement should be allowed to do so?
Why is the cop the bad guy? The guy being pulled over was completely out-of-line. He has watched one too many cops shows if he thinks the cop was obligated to read him his rights. The cop was not questioning him.
So what if his family was in the car, not the cops problem, the guy being pulled over should have been more considerate of his family instead of making an spectacle.
Take no personal responsibility seems to be prevailing sentiment.
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