So in its most simplistic, you're saying the government knows better how to raise your child then the adult? With our system of law and order, all that does is open a door of the federal government telling you how to run your life and what is best for you in your own space. Sorry...not for it.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You must agree that there are some parents in this world that just shouldn't have kids. The lounge is full of posts about them. Laws are not meant to control people who have half a lick of common sense. You and I, and most people in general, would never murder any one. Yet we have a law making murder illegal.

I think the smoking ban in cars in the presence of minors has the right intent but the wrong execution. They should just ban smoking entirely or not at all.

For those opposed to the law, I pose a couple of questions. Would you smoke in a car with children in it? Would you let someone else smoke in a car with your children in it?

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No and no, but that is MY decision...not the governments.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Should we able to decide to inject your child with Drano? How about snake venom in low doses because you think it fends off evil spirits?

Knowing what we know today about the harmfull effects of smoking, it's not a decision, it's a moral obligation. When the evidence was still being debated years ago it may have been an individual decision, but not any more.

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So perhaps the better way to handle this issue is to do something to educate the public. Perhaps some PSAs showing how smoking in a car (or in a small confined area) with children can be very bad for their health??

I am on the fence on this issue. I agree with Wagner that the government dictates too much of what people can and cannot do. But I also think there is some responsibility of society to protect innocent children from abuse. So perhaps the best way to address both issues is to try to educate parents to do the right thing, without passing laws that make it manditory.

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time posting in political threads in the lounge...

It's been done and continues to be done. There aren't many people who own a car that haven't received the message. The people this law is aimed at already know it's harmful to their children. They just don't care enough to give up the habit.

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In the instance where a parent or adult is smoking with a child in the car...Yes.

Remember your article with the two parents fighting over which gang their 4 year old should be in? Should the government intervene? Or do those parents know better on how to raise that 4 year old?

How about car seats? Should the government mandate child car seats?

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