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Old 08-30-2005, 03:34 PM
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give me a break

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but american cars suck they look so cheep inside, and resale sucks even more............ dont do it......................
My American car will leave you standing still, is quite comfy, and happens to actually look OK inside.
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:49 PM
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Sad but true

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My American car will leave you standing still, is quite comfy, and happens to actually look OK inside.
Nobody contest that your car is fast and confy , yours is maybe reliable, but that will be an exception, you'll meet your car when it's time to get a new one.
The resale value really sucks..
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:02 AM
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I have to disagree with that.. too much of a generalization... Plenty of awesome American cars out there.. i.e. - the C6's, Vipers, Mike's CTS-V and even the Panoz, Gt40's, and Saleen S7.. you are missing the boat if you don't sample these cars and appreciate the engineering that goes into them..

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Old 08-28-2005, 08:02 AM
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I'm planning on getting the 2007 Shelby Mustang when it comes out but that is because I will not be driving it every day. I love the design and power of that car but the overall "quality" is still an issue to me.

As for the Pontiac, nice motor..crappy design. Although you have to wonder how nice that engine really is. I mean isn't it the same general push-rod design from 30 years ago that was used in earlier Chevy 350's (I realize there is more displacement but no more technology)? Just makes me think GM always needs to add aluminum to the motor to get more power instead of changing the engineering behind the powerplant.
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:30 PM
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There's one in my neighborhood. Don't care for the looks of it much.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:22 AM
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0-60 in 5.8? I would expect a lower number with that much torque and hp. Anyone care to explain this one? Crappy driver perhaps?
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:36 PM
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That can't be right

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0-60 in 5.8? I would expect a lower number with that much torque and hp. Anyone care to explain this one? Crappy driver perhaps?
That car should do 4.8 at worst. That must be a misprint.
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Old 08-30-2005, 09:48 PM
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I never said I didn't like my X5 either. These generalizations are ridiculous, though. My car's resale 1 year after I bought it I'm sure isn't so good. I'm sure a couple of years from it will be fine enough. And, after a year, I haven't any problems, other than replacing the idiotic OEM runflat tires.

Having owned BMW's for the past 15 years, I have no problem with my car choice this time around (BTW - not a GTO), except for when I pine for a SUV to haul crap around, but I'd have that with any car.

I will say this though, dealer service and roadside assist from Cadillac, at least here in my area, makes BMW look like Pontiac. The BMW people just plain sucked, which really annoyed me. The Cadillac people have been incredible.
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:08 PM
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These generalizations are ridiculous, though.
GM can -- and DOES on occasion -- build some exceptional cars! The C6 is one good example. I happen to like the new caddies. They are sporty, luxurious, and fast. They've done a great job in the last few years, and I must say, they are worth giving a serious look. I'd consider a Caddy before I'd consider a Lexus, to be honest.

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Old 08-30-2005, 10:57 PM
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I shouldn't have gotten baited into this, but the All American Cars are Crap line is a little too vague for my likes. Before I bought this caddy, I said that I wshed a serious American car would come out to compete. I'm just glad they finally did.

As I tell people - it ain't perfect, but it gets me to work and back.
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