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Old 05-21-2008, 11:20 AM
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Ahh, that isn't the only thing going on in the world.
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:27 AM
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"And I know its to late for that but Bush should have never been president, someone brave should have taken care of him at the begining. The world would have been a better place and Hell would have realy deserved its name. But its too late now."

Let me get this right. You are threatening a US President on the internet? And we are supposed to revere your opinion?
Yeah I thought the same thing LOL. "did he just say someone brave should have off'd him? WTF"

He will have the CIA at his door by Friday. He's probably not even Canadian or Old.
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:30 AM
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He's not a "clone". He differs in many respects.
Please enlighten us?

Not saying he IS a clone, I'm sure some of his policy has to be different or else truthfully why even run, just let Bush run again..change the rules.

My concern is more for the money that has been spent on the unnecessary war, and the money that will continue to be spent, based on McCain's war stance.
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:43 AM
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Ahh, that isn't the only thing going on in the world.
Does mean he is a clone with respect to the war and you don't want to talk about it?
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All I can say is don't vote for his clone McCain.
Do you check in every day with the DNC to get your talking points? Your broad brush strokes may work to motivate your hyper activist base but it does nothing to elevate this debate beyond that of a Berkley street protest.
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Does mean he is a clone with respect to the war and you don't want to talk about it?
Well how is this for starters.

Bush AFTER Rumsfeld resigned.

"Don Rumsfeld has been a superb leader during a time of change,"

McCain AFTER Rumsfeld resigned.

"The war was terribly mismanaged and Rumsfeld will go down as one of the worst secretaries of defense in history,"

Now...Where McCain and Democrats differ is the "surrender" option. McCain does not want to surrender and admit defeat at a time when the eyes of the World are upon us. Especially our enemies in the rouge Arab Nations.

Now if you'd like to debate surrender step up to the table. Or you can just follow this link for your next opinion and argument.

http://www.democrats.org/index.html
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Well how is this for starters.

Bush AFTER Rumsfeld resigned.
"Don Rumsfeld has been a superb leader during a time of change,"

McCain AFTER Rumsfeld resigned.
"The war was terribly mismanaged and Rumsfeld will go down as one of the worst secretaries of defense in history," ...
At the risk of dipping into politico charged arm wrestles, the different
responses above, are the result of Dubya having to say "something"
about the heretofore "genius" Sec of Def. he sent packing vs. McCain
as a Senator being able to spout off about anything he cares to...imo.

Sort of analogous to the CEO saying the VP of Strawberries has resigned
and we wish him well, vs. the VP of Mkting saying that his fellow VP of Strawberries
was in over his head, stupid, a boot licker, etc.
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At the risk of dipping into politico charged arm wrestles, the different
responses above, are the result of Dubya having to say "something"
about the heretofore "genius" Sec of Def. he sent packing vs. McCain
as a Senator being able to spout off about anything he cares to...imo.

Sort of analogous to the CEO saying the VP of Strawberries has resigned
and we wish him well, vs. the VP of Mkting saying that his fellow VP of Strawberries
was in over his head, stupid, a boot licker, etc.


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Now...Where McCain and Democrats differ is the "surrender" option. McCain does not want to surrender and admit defeat at a time when the eyes of the World are upon us. Especially our enemies in the rouge Arab Nations.
Ummm.. The rest of the World? The rest of the world is already looking at the US shaking their head. The rest of the world already dissaproves of this war.. as well as 68% of Americans. There's a difference in "surrender" and removing troops and helping build the country and preventing civil unrest, than just staying there and have more and more of our troops (sons, fathers, daughters and mothers) come home injured or worse.
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:51 PM
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At the risk of dipping into politico charged arm wrestles, the different
responses above, are the result of Dubya having to say "something"
about the heretofore "genius" Sec of Def. he sent packing vs. McCain
as a Senator being able to spout off about anything he cares to...imo.

Sort of analogous to the CEO saying the VP of Strawberries has resigned
and we wish him well, vs. the VP of Mkting saying that his fellow VP of Strawberries
was in over his head, stupid, a boot licker, etc.
It was an opening, thus the the word "Starters". Just because both Bush and McCain oppose surrender or quitting without meeting our objective which the Democrats prefer does not make them clones.
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Ummm.. The rest of the World? The rest of the world is already looking at the US shaking their head. The rest of the world already dissaproves of this war.. as well as 68% of Americans. There's a difference in "surrender" and removing troops and helping build the country and preventing civil unrest, than just staying there and have more and more of our troops (sons, fathers, daughters and mothers) come home injured or worse.
Sorry...Quiting before we meet our objective because the enemy we are fighting has made this war unpalatable to the American people is surrender. I don't care how you dress it up. Also, how do you expect to "prevent civil unrest" without troops?

If we do pull out because of the continuing violence we've just sent a message to our enemies that the US will back down from a fight if they follow the strategy of civil unrest, IED's and terrorism. Just think of all the opportunity's we had to back out of WWII when things got ugly.
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