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Old 06-30-2009, 05:45 PM
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Irrelevant? Because he hasn't had a hit in a few years?
Yes, king of pop hadn't had a hit in 10+ years. He was hardly ever in the spotlight except for doing something asinine or being accused of something. His star was fading. The King of Pop wasn't in the pop lime-light anymore. I would call that somewhat irrelevant with regard to pop culture. Are you trying to tell me he was as popular or relevant as he was in the late 80's early 90's? Really? How many times did you listen to any of your MJ albums, CD's, tapes in the past 10 years. I bet like most peoples, yours were collecting dust and only now they are breaking them out again.
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Old 06-30-2009, 05:53 PM
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Yes, king of pop hadn't had a hit in 10+ years. He was hardly ever in the spotlight except for doing something asinine or being accused of something. His star was fading. The King of Pop wasn't in the pop lime-light anymore. I would call that somewhat irrelevant with regard to pop culture. Are you trying to tell me he was as popular or relevant as he was in the late 80's early 90's? Really? How many times did you listen to any of your MJ albums, CD's, tapes in the past 10 years. I bet like most peoples, yours were collecting dust and only now they are breaking them out again.
MJ still gets play in my ride. I also play the J5 Christmas album every year for the past 35 years. I have the WIZ on DVD, too, if you must know.

Prince is also on a regular rotation in my ride. No doubt that he is eccentric. IMO, Prince hasn't had a GREAT album since he parted ways with the Revolution... that does not make him any less relevant.
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Another forgotten gem...BEN won a Golden Globe for Best Song and was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Original Song.

Funny thing, to me, is BEN is about a Killer rat, LOL! But what i really love about this song is the incredible instrumentation...I'm a sucker for such arrangements.

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Old 06-30-2009, 05:54 PM
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Michael Jackson did a number of things we can all admit
were down right strange. I don't believe anyone's arguing
or contesting, or even defending his unusual behaviour.
I would even venture a bet though that if you were allowed
to look below the surface of his life you would find other dirt
that would make you personally gasp. So I guess the question
is when is enough enough? Could it be that it's the tabloid
mentality that keeps the juices flowing? I would say yes.
After all who wants to hear and discuss good news "right"?

I would also venture a guess that if any of us became the
subject of those allegations and our lives were dug into
and covered in the tabloids the way his life has been there
would be some very interesting stories we would be telling,
and no doubt some of us would end up with nicknames like Wacko Jacko
or whatever.

I just seems to me (and maybe I'm wrong) that we spend a lot
of time dwelling on the negative. particularly unproven allegations
that we have decided on our own is true. I don't know if the most
serious allegations are true or not. At the same time I don't believe
any rational person is going to stick his head in the sand regarding
the possibilities thus "giving him a pass" so to speak.

Having said that, it's my choice (until the allegations are proven)
to try to remember the artist for his musical contributions.
And to be honest I would do the same for anyone in the same position
weather he had a hit record or that person happened to be good ole Joe....
That doesn't mean that other opinions don't have merit
it just means that from where I sit I have no desire to get on the tabloid train.

Hence i often play the "Devils advocate" posing the other side of the argument
trying to see if all the avenues have been explored even
the unpopular.

Yes I may try to stir the pot but at the end of the day I would hope
to level the playing field.

In that regard I leave you with James Baldwins quote.
"People pay for what they do, and still more for what
they have allowed themselves to become. And they
pay for it very simply; by the lives they lead"

No where do we find that truth more evident then in
the case of Michael Jackson and his family.
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let me now continue with my personal Michael Jackson concert....
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Old 06-30-2009, 05:56 PM
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Prince is on a regular rotation in my ride, too. No doubt that he is eccentric. IMO, Prince hasn't had a GREAT album since he parted ways with the Revolution... that does not make him any less relevant.
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I suspect none of us on here know for sure whether he done anything indecent with children but because of his persona, created by Michael himself and the media a lot of people choose to believe that he did.


I certainly do not know where the fact stops and the fiction starts re the Michael Jackson "life" story.

I don't think much of his father that's for sure. I don't think Michael was that fond of him either, some say that's where all Michaels "problems" stem from, that and his fame from a very young age.

There is no doubt he was talented maybe his music was not to everyones taste but he did have talent and he could dance. I think his gigs in London would have been awesome.

Still x amount of days after his death the pantomime that surrounds him the is still very prevelant (secrets, facts, fiction) and this time round the guy is dead so he can't be blamed.

Maybe Gladys Knight is correct that we are all to blame for his life and his death.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:02 PM
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Haven't seen one but I heard his small concerts are
"OFF THE HOOK"
That they are. My favorite Prince performance is a little unknown guitar solo of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." Worthy of a Youtube search.
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Yes, king of pop hadn't had a hit in 10+ years. He was hardly ever in the spotlight except for doing something asinine or being accused of something. His star was fading. The King of Pop wasn't in the pop lime-light anymore. I would call that somewhat irrelevant with regard to pop culture. Are you trying to tell me he was as popular or relevant as he was in the late 80's early 90's? Really? How many times did you listen to any of your MJ albums, CD's, tapes in the past 10 years. I bet like most peoples, yours were collecting dust and only now they are breaking them out again.
Again...another misconception. The average consumer may assume MJ is irrelevant, just because he hasn't released any new material in said amount of years...but on the contrary, if you review BDS global reports, you would see that MJ STILL has substantial global spins for an artist that hasn't released any new material within the same time-frame. And now with his death, the reports are going to be flooded with MJ, Jackson 5, and Janet data.

So what exactly constitutes his irrelevance?
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:20 PM
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Again...another misconception. The average consumer may assume MJ is irrelevant, just because he hasn't released any new material in said amount of years...but on the contrary, if you review BDS global reports, you would see that MJ STILL has substantial global spins for an artist that hasn't released any new material within the same time-frame.
LOL, Right and David Hasselhoff is as popular and relevant as he once was because Baywatch is on 4 times a day in Germany.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:25 PM
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LOL, Right and David Hasselhoff is as popular and relevant as he once was because Baywatch is on 4 times a day in Germany.
We have just jumped the shark... crossed the Rubicon... and are officially off of the reservation with this debate.

Knight Rider was the Hoff's best work, IMO. He wasn't the same after he and Kitt broke up.
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