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Old 01-14-2011, 04:57 PM
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Meh, as soon as you get out on the track you change tires and suspension and everything else so the cars are pretty equal anyways. The thing that matters is the person behind the wheel.

What I give BMW kudos for, is making a car that is as fast and capable as it is, but also loaded with technology and finished far better, with nicer materials and build quality.

The Ford is great and fast and all but other than that it has nothing to offer compared to the BMW.
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:24 PM
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Meh, as soon as you get out on the track you change tires and suspension and everything else so the cars are pretty equal anyways. The thing that matters is the person behind the wheel.

What I give BMW kudos for, is making a car that is as fast and capable as it is, but also loaded with technology and finished far better, with nicer materials and build quality.

The Ford is great and fast and all but other than that it has nothing to offer compared to the BMW.
Not a Mustang fanboi, but I am impressed with them, and with M3s...
but a loaded Gt 5.0 is barely half the price of a fairly optioned M3, so
it is really not an apple to apple comparo point, vis a vis your comment, imo.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:14 PM
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Not a Mustang fanboi, but I am impressed with them, and with M3s...
but a loaded Gt 5.0 is barely half the price of a fairly optioned M3, so
it is really not an apple to apple comparo point, vis a vis your comment, imo.
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Yep. That is why it is impressive for the regular Mustang GT to hang with the M3. Especially on the track and not just a straight line.
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:26 PM
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well ford did make the Ford GT...

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Meh, as soon as you get out on the track you change tires and suspension and everything else so the cars are pretty equal anyways. The thing that matters is the person behind the wheel.

What I give BMW kudos for, is making a car that is as fast and capable as it is, but also loaded with technology and finished far better, with nicer materials and build quality.

The Ford is great and fast and all but other than that it has nothing to offer compared to the BMW.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:20 PM
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Meh, as soon as you get out on the track you change tires and suspension and everything else so the cars are pretty equal anyways. The thing that matters is the person behind the wheel.

What I give BMW kudos for, is making a car that is as fast and capable as it is, but also loaded with technology and finished far better, with nicer materials and build quality.

The Ford is great and fast and all but other than that it has nothing to offer compared to the BMW.
There are many reasons why the M3 is more expensive. It is more refined, luxurious, precise, rare (compared to a Mustang GT anyway), etc, but even though I am a BMW fanboi, I have to give this new Mustang credit. If I were shopping for cars and I had the money to drop on a new e92 M3, the Mustang wouldn't even be an afterthought, but there is a pretty substantial price difference between the two and if performance is your priority and you don't have new M3 money, but still want to buy new....

I am a BMW fanboi, so I would probably end up buying a used e46 M3, 335i, 135i or even an e46 330i ZHP before buying a Mustang, but out of all the current "muscle cars", it is the one that appeals to me the most.
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I have always been a mustang fan. The biggest selling point in my eyes is the bang for the buck. I was so excited to bring up the price part about the mustang (and was pissed that you guys beat me too it, lol)

But think of it this way.....

With the difference in price from the mustang to the M3..... Imagine what you could do to that stang if you dropped $20k into it.?!?!?!

That mustang would not only out proform the M3 in every way (minus fit and finish and the high quality as a daily driver) but I would put money that it could take the vette!
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:24 PM
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^ your right. It doesn't matter. If it works well...... What else do you need?
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The new Mustang is a lot of performance for the price for sure. I was surprised that it would hang in these tests with the M3, didn't even really consider it possible. The Boss (two versions) is a serious contendor at the track. So for the masses and even for some those that can afford much more, the Mustang is both a muslce car and track car option. The new 5.0 engine is very good. The aftermarket support is huge with optins for mild to wild.

Ford built these with very good materials, they are refined and reliable. I'm happy to see this part of Ford's recovery and health. The live axle was a nod to the straight line racers, now with more track cred, the rumors of next gen Mustangs having IRS are growing.

I love my Shelby GT500 and would love to add an M3 so I can experience the variety.
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I've owned a Mustang every year of my life since I got my license in 1989. My first was a brand new 5 Liter LX. I currently own an 04 GT that's heavily modded. I have also owned 4 BMW's. My friend just purchased a competition M3. After having a chance to drive it, I don't really think I would take a Gt over the M3. That being said, I detect a lot of snobby tones in some of you people's remarks about Ford products. Saying you would take an E46 M3 over this new 011 GT is hilarious. You go ahead and do that. You'll be seeing Ford tail lights at the track, and at every street encounter. Ford has also come a long way in reliability. My GT has 110k miles on it. It has NEVER seen the service dept. Yes there are nightmare stories out there, but go read how many people here have had cars bought back from BMW . Ford is currently producing cars that are a great bang for the buck. Not everyone can afford to drop 70k on a new car. Obviously neither can some of you, which is why you drive old , or bought used BMW's. The 2011 GT at it's price point is an awesome car. The interior has come a long way. I'm not crazy about the exterior looks, but as a package, Ford has done well. These cars are also easy and inexpensive to mod. You'll be seeing these things hit 600+ RWHP in no time. That's without having to pay $4k for a catback, like BMW owners. It's good to open your eyes to American manufacturers sometimes. From the posts , many of you have. Thats good to see.
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