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Old 10-04-2013, 01:58 AM
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Since we are expressing our thoughts on what each of us would do in that hypothetical situation if we were the driver of that Range Rover and our wife and child were in the vehicle, how would we react...?

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So at what point would each of us transform our behavior from defensive to offensive...?
Would it be once one or more of the bikers physically attack my vehicle? If so, would it have to be more that denting body panels, such as breaking glass windows?
Most likely, it would be at the point where in our conscious thinking, we jump from fear as our motivator, (i.e. drive away at a fast rate to attempt to escape the danger), to violent physical rage, (turning my vehicle into a weapon and actually use it that way to consciously inflict physical harm on as many cyclists as I could....).

This frightening video really does raise many questions for each of us and makes me think, "what would I do....?"
Interesting question.

My 'line' is physical contact: when they hit me, then my actions escalate. I'd like to think I wouldnt panic and wildly plunge into them, but rather push through the crowd. Same if blocked in with cars- first try and move them with force not impacts (which can damage your car)

But once 'free' then you are doing a few things- one, trying and preventing them from getting alongside, such that they could strike the glass, shoot, or disable. Second trying to maintain visual to see if anyone IS pulling a weapon. So controlling the paths around your car... stay in the right lane, anyone alongside gets swerved into: they can stay behind or ahead. Next, speed is NOT your friend. Think OJ chase. Speed just brings you up to a new, potentially worse situation: traffic blocked, red light, etc. (unless you can outrun the aggressor, dont bother.) Do things to attract attention, piss off other drivers, have them call 911. Finally think about an end game: obviously a police station would be good, but where else can you go? If it is one person, then maybe a evasive move or two could separate you, even if you are slower: an off ramp, across traffic.

just thinking and considering this kind of thing is a good conversation...


Oh, once saw a biker who was lane splitting have words with a driver -smacked his window, and then broke his mirror. I was right behind them, wondering where this was going.... I wrote down the bikers plate number on a biz card and pulled next to the other driver when traffic slowed and gave it to him. Not sure who was more surpirsed, the driver in the car, or the biker later on....
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