Gun Topic/Debate - Page 5

DSSA · #41 06-18-2015, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TiAgX5

Bill passed and signed.....

Gov. Abbott signs open carry, campus carry into law

Now if you can just send some of that "common sense" (gotta love how that phrase has been beaten to death at every opportunity by the anti's) to the NE part of the nation.

I'm starting to feel claustrophobic here in PA as the walls seem to be closing in instead of opening up.

Good luck with that DE--I prefer to OC my S&W .460XVR. It doubles as a walking stick.

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JCL · #42 06-18-2015, 09:07 PM

And in other news, Colt files for Chapter 11. They are even located in the NE.

edogg · #43 06-19-2015, 12:50 PM

Colt lost the M4 military contract to FN a couple of years ago, which has really killed them. If you're itching for a Colt AR or 1911, better jump on it while they're still around!

JCL · #44 06-19-2015, 03:27 PM

Thanks, but I am one of those strange ones who think that the more gun manufacturers that go out of business, the better.

davesx5 · #45 06-26-2015, 09:41 PM

Just remember

To conquer a nation, first disarm its citizens.

— Adolph Hitler, 1933

JCL · #46 06-27-2015, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesx5

Just remember

To conquer a nation, first disarm its citizens.

— Adolph Hitler, 1933

Source?

Snopes doesn't agree with you.

snopes.com: Adolf Hitler - To Conquer a Nation

davesx5 · #47 06-27-2015, 09:34 AM

Ok i will give that one to you. It does appear to be a urban myth that hitler said that.

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington

Doug Huffman · #48 06-27-2015, 06:52 PM

A quotation without context is barely different from the Hitler mis-attribution above. If you're gonna quote, provide context and a useful citation.

Quote:

A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.

George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress (8 January 1790)

JCL · #49 06-28-2015, 02:05 AM

I have to say, if I was roaming those parts in 1790 I probably would have wanted a firearm as well.

So George Washington appears to have been promoting independent arms factories, particularly for essential military supplies. He goes on to talk about the troops required to maintain the peace. And he also said that the people needed to be disciplined (presumably in their use of the firearms).

Are current (existing or proposed) firearms regulations considered to be part of that discipline of which he spoke?

TiAgX5 · #50 06-28-2015, 09:31 AM

The gun manufacturers that "hang their hats" on government and/or military contracts and do not actively support the 2nd Amendment are a lost contract or 2 away from folding.

Barrett knows this, and WILL NOT sell firearms to Law/SWAT agencies in states that refuse to provide gun purchase/ownership/WILL issue laws to it's law abiding citizens.

The anti-gunners push for more restrictive gun laws with data that states the USA is in the top 5 countries for gun violence. Take away the data from the 3 most active states for gun violence, and the US drops to the BOTTOM 5 countries for gun violence.

Those same 3 states with the most gun violence, have the most restrictive laws for gun ownership (no issue/may issue CHLs).

Funny how the lawmakers thought strict laws would reduce gun use (did they expect criminals to suddenly abide by that ONE law). All the restrictive laws did was dis-arm law abiding citizens (AKA, victims).

"Gun Free" zones look good on paper and make people FEEL safer, too bad mass shooters/criminals translate "Gun Free" zones to "Unarmed Victim" zones.

I choose to carry legally because soooooo many who intend to harm and/or rob, carry illegally.

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