Trump Predictions

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by sciond

I am guessing he is going to outlast the DNC who is bankrupt


Future Proves Past

Even if that were the case... we should ask ourselves.

Is it better to have a party that is financially bankrupt in office... or one that is morally bankrupt. I still find it hilarious that the "family" party nominated a narcissistic womanizer who is a dubious (at best) businessman.

And I am not a lefty. Purely independent. It's interesting watching the two parties implode. Though would certainly prefer the Dems to the current Rep setup.

[sciond]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Even if that were the case... we should ask ourselves.

Is it better to have a party that is financially bankrupt in office... or one that is morally bankrupt. I still find it hilarious that the "family" party nominated a narcissistic womanizer who is a dubious (at best) businessman.

And I am not a lefty. Purely independent. It's interesting watching the two parties implode. Though would certainly prefer the Dems to the current Rep setup.

I am centric but I would have to be really ignorant not to see the crimes of the alt left tin foil hat people.....We have never seen corruption like the last administration.

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by sciond

I am centric but I would have to be really ignorant not to see the crimes of the alt left tin foil hat people.....We have never seen corruption like the last administration.

That exact thought could be applied to the current administration.

I didn't like all of Obama's policies, especially the second term... but I'd take him over what we have now. Trump thew oil into the swamp and lit it on fire... now nothing functions. Both parties need to move more center and start finding some common ground instead of bickering like petulant children on the taxpayer's dime.

[sciond]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

That exact thought could be applied to the current administration.

I didn't like all of Obama's policies, especially the second term... but I'd take him over what we have now. Trump thew oil into the swamp and lit it on fire... now nothing functions. Both parties need to move more center and start finding some common ground instead of bickering like petulant children on the taxpayer's dime.

As the scandals are coming out. Do you steel feel the same? I am a recovering Democrat who looks at the situation for what it's worth. At the end of The day Trump may turn out to be the best president of our lifetime. His success list is long although the media doesn't discuss it.

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by sciond

As the scandals are coming out. Do you steel feel the same? I am a recovering Democrat who looks at the situation for what it's worth. At the end of The day Trump may turn out to be the best president of our lifetime. His success list is long although the media doesn't discuss it.

Could you elaborate on the scandals? I am only aware of "spying" on Trump's campaign... I am waiting all of this nonsense out to make judgement on that, or the collusion Trump may or may not have had. I will wait until the end of the investigation (on both issues) to judge.

I wanted Obama to send some bank executives to jail like some of the European countries did after they ran the economy the ground and almost crashed the world economy. That was a huge failure IMO. I also wanted him to be more transparent, as he promised, but that never materialized. He definitely had failures.

Also, could you elaborate on his list of successes? The only one that comes to mind is the tax cut, and your opinion on that is going to depend where you fall on the economic spectrum. I would rather he had kept the taxes the same and did away with the self employment tax. Talk about stimulating the economy and spurring innovation... no better way than to make it more beneficial for people to work for themselves.

I can list just some of his failures...

1. Appointed Ajit Pai (former Verizon atty) chairman of the FCC. This cost us Title 2 status for the ISPs and is assisting them in stifling growth and competition. Cost us net neutrality so here come the "net-zero" services and fast lanes. Again stifling innovation and growth.

2. He has filled our political "news" with scandal. Whether true or not, having our news cycle filled with stories of corruption, partisanship, and pay-offs is not good for the day-to-day running of the government.

3. He won't keep his dumb fingers off his phone and Twitter account. Some of the stuff he says there (with impunity) blows my mind.

4. Has appointed some of the dumbest cronies in recent memory to his cabinet. This has cost a lot of time and effort as well as he keeps cleaning house.

5. Appointed Scott Pruit to head up the EPA. Regardless of your feelings on AGW... this is just a ridiculous move. A former oil executive heading up the EPA? I don't know how you could have more of a conflict of interest. I thought making Ajit Pai head of the FCC was bad...

6. Has turned the executive branch into the head of an oligarchy, plutocracy, or plutarchy depending on how you want to term it. Sure it's good for BIG business, and the stock market is going gang busters. But that's just paper money. My family can't touch any of that until we retire. Which is the case with MOST who are vested in the market. A lot could happen between now and then. And I'll grant he isn't the only one guilty of this, the judicial branch laid a HUGE egg on it's decision allowing Citizens United (what a crock of a name).

I am decidedly independent and fall very center left or right depending on the issue. All of this polarizing stuff is beyond me and sounds like a bunch of children bickering in the school yard. And Trump is the loudest bully in the yard. His litigious nature and narcissism had me worried from the beginning and it's only been confirmed as we get further into his term.

[ard]

Originally Posted by sciond

As the scandals are coming out. Do you steel feel the same? I am a recovering Democrat who looks at the situation for what it's worth. At the end of The day Trump may turn out to be the best president of our lifetime. His success list is long although the media doesn't discuss it.

Frightening.

"The scandals"? His successes?

[ard]

Originally Posted by sciond

As the scandals are coming out. Do you steel feel the same? I am a recovering Democrat who looks at the situation for what it's worth. At the end of The day Trump may turn out to be the best president of our lifetime. His success list is long although the media doesn't discuss it.

Where's our buddy scion??

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Even if that were the case... we should ask ourselves.

Is it better to have a party that is financially bankrupt in office... or one that is morally bankrupt. I still find it hilarious that the "family" party nominated a narcissistic womanizer who is a dubious (at best) businessman.

And I am not a lefty. Purely independent. It's interesting watching the two parties implode. Though would certainly prefer the Dems to the current Rep setup.

you seriously think that the party of schumer and the witch pelosi isn't morally bankrupt!??! Thank you, I literally laughed out loud at that. Classic.

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by Thunder22

you seriously think that the party of schumer and the witch pelosi isn't morally bankrupt!??! Thank you, I literally laughed out loud at that. Classic.

Before 2016 my thoughts may have been different.. but now, they look like angels compared to the current admin.

Originally Posted by Thunder22

hmmmmm, imploding?

1) economy on fire
2) unemployment, especially amongst minorities at all time lows
3) just disarmed north korea when obumma was ready to declare war on them as his final screw up.

I guess we have different definitions of imploding lol


I have an idea for those that think the country is a wreck - take the difference in your paycheck from before the tax law changes and give it to charity, or back to your employer. I'm sure that you'r morals won't allow you to accept it considering how morally bankrupt the current admin is.

Go ahead, i'll wait....

1. The economy is going gang busters (and was doing so under the last admin as well) for big business and wall street. If you are part of that group, yeah you are probably happy as a clam. The majority of the country can fight for the left overs I suppose.


2. Unemployment was low when he took office. He's been riding the wave. Credit to him for not doing anything as of yet to mess it up. Too bad wages are not rising at the rate they should be with unemployment so low. At current rates, companies should be raising salaries to compete for talent. But that's not happening... yet.


3. Don't count those chickens just yet. Much like waiting for the results of the investigations before judging Trump's possible transgressions... I'm waiting for the results of his deal with Kim to see if anything real and verifiable comes of it.


As for wages in a check... didn't see any real difference. <.05%. Hardly sends my wife and I dancing in the streets on payday. If he really wants to stimulate the economy, how about helping main street by doing away with the self-employment tax? Corporate tax cuts are great but don't help nearly as many as cutting the self-employment tax.

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Before 2016 my thoughts may have been different.. but now, they look like angels compared to the current admin.





1. The economy is going gang busters (and was doing so under the last admin as well) for big business and wall street. If you are part of that group, yeah you are probably happy as a clam. The majority of the country can fight for the left overs I suppose.


2. Unemployment was low when he took office. He's been riding the wave. Credit to him for not doing anything as of yet to mess it up. Too bad wages are not rising at the rate they should be with unemployment so low. At current rates, companies should be raising salaries to compete for talent. But that's not happening... yet.


3. Don't count those chickens just yet. Much like waiting for the results of the investigations before judging Trump's possible transgressions... I'm waiting for the results of his deal with Kim to see if anything real and verifiable comes of it.


As for wages in a check... didn't see any real difference. <.05%. Hardly sends my wife and I dancing in the streets on payday. If he really wants to stimulate the economy, how about helping main street by doing away with the self-employment tax? Corporate tax cuts are great but don't help nearly as many as cutting the self-employment tax.

wow... we must live on a different planet

we are somewhat in the same boat though, you appear to be the only Liberal in Texas, and I'm the only Republican in NY/NJ LOL

Have a good weekend.