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View Poll Results: How will Trumps presidency end?
He will be impeached and removed 0 0%
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Old 01-23-2020, 08:03 PM
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Though historically, the last 3 times the impeachment process has gone through the House,

3 times?
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3 times?
Sorry, 2 times. I was including Nixon but he resigned before actual impeachment.
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Old 01-23-2020, 11:11 PM
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Yeah. Kinda like the guy that is compelled to say "In the US,its 240 Volt...not 220."


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Well this is an interesting turn of events. Trump impeached? WOW What a stable genius
can do!!!! The house has impeached this Bozo. Yeah I know he may survive the Senate but
Convicted or acquitted he won't escape going down in the history as the third president to be
impeached. Does he deserve it? Of course he does.

What may be more telling is all the people who actually believe he did nothing wrong. It's hard to
imagine that people with a conscience continue to support him. Sooo sad.
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Well this is an interesting turn of events. Trump impeached? WOW What a stable genius

can do!!!! The house has impeached this Bozo. Yeah I know he may survive the Senate but

Convicted or acquitted he won't escape going down in the history as the third president to be

impeached. Does he deserve it? Of course he does.



What may be more telling is all the people who actually believe he did nothing wrong. It's hard to

imagine that people with a conscience continue to support him. Sooo sad.


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Old 02-12-2020, 01:17 AM
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Well this is an interesting turn of events. Trump impeached? WOW What a stable genius
can do!!!! The house has impeached this Bozo. Yeah I know he may survive the Senate but
Convicted or acquitted he won't escape going down in the history as the third president to be
impeached. Does he deserve it? Of course he does.

What may be more telling is all the people who actually believe he did nothing wrong. It's hard to
imagine that people with a conscience continue to support him. Sooo sad.

Im really curious how the Trump apologists are spinning his (attempted) corruption of the DOJ. Roger stone broke the law and was convicted on all counts. Cut and dried, he lied he covered up wrongdoing in relation to Russian corruption of our elections.



Now Trumps lapdog, Bill Barr is strong arming the DOJ to protect this dirtbag.



Four very senior, respected US attorneys have resigned/recused in response to Barr seeking to 'spring' Stone. (The prosecutors submitted a sentencing recommendation for 7-9 years, Barr went agaisnt his team with a new letter saying 'we disagree, it should be months'



Jesse Liu was in charge of that office- Trump moved to recommend her for a new job. The Barr didnt wait for her to get the job, which required senate review, Barr bought in his own guy (Tim Shea) to do this bidding. Then, after Shea was brought in to head up the southern district- and then Trump cut Liu's legs out and withdrew her name for the new job. Effectively firing her.


I assumed Trump would pardon Stone. But the DOJ now doing Trump's political/legal dirtywork is shocking


This is Banana Republic stuff. Brazil...Venezuela...other failed democracies...



Of course the Trumpies are unconcerned since it is all their team. They fail to recognize their 'team' is a criminal conspiracy.
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It's a farce... that's for damn sure.

As long as we have 2 party politics (us vs. them), and Citizen's United, the moderate Republicans who voted for him will do so again. Look no further than Congress. The MAGA Trumpers will obviously support him no matter what he does.
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Initiate term limits, provide same government insurance program and only while in office, eliminate the electoral college.

To get back on track elect a Democratic President and achieve a Democratic majority in both the House and Senate. I'm not a hardline Democrat but if Trump is re-elected his obsession with power will continually accelerate, probably planning the biggest shock and awe use of military might on some near defenseless nation already.

If we have a divided congress nothing will get done. if we have either a Democratic or Republican majority in congress with an opposite party President nothing gets done. If the majority of both the House and Senate are Republican with Trump as President we are doomed. The only way to stop a bully is to publicly humiliate them with either physical or verbal confrontation to the point that they just scream and babble, break down completely and curl up in the fetal position. There is an additional problem with Trump because he is a likely a below normal intelligent narcissist, probably in the malignant category, which mean he has no limits of what he will do even if publicly humiliated. If a Democrat is to be President or a Republican other than Tramp they will have to humiliate Trump in the debates, by knowledge, presidential behavior that keeps him on the defensive. I would like the moderators to control the microphones and only open the mike of the person speaking and cut it off if they don't stop taking at the end of their time limit. Camera's only on the person speaking so distracting antics aren't seen. No Trump supporters here that want to join in?
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I want them to eliminate debates all together and just televise town halls for each candidate. The debates are a stupid format for trying to relay a plan or strategy on complex topics to the voters. It draws ratings for the networks but does a disservice to the country.
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Not likely there would be national coverage for town hall meetings and most of the questions would be soft ones but I agree the debates are barely worthwhile to watch. Unfortunately for a large part of the nation debates are the only way to attempt to identify differences. I think the key is changing the debate format.

Perhaps start with summation of what they all tout in the town hall meetings--What are you going to do that will impact taxation, global warming, environment management, medical care, foreign aid and relations, infrastructure, improving bi-partisan cooperation, strengthening the middle class, balance the budget, reduce the deficient, etc. Perhaps post bullet points behind them so we can see each of their positions.

I agree that as is the debates are chaos and that is the network's failing. However, I want to see side by side comparisons of the different points of view, how each handles the pressure of surprise questions, and if they look and naturally act like a President, whatever that is.

There are debate rules. All candidates agree to the rules beforehand. The problem is they are not enforced. If a candidate interrupts have a debate chair person that only enforces the rules, pounds a gavel when they are out of line and if that doesn't work cut off their microphone or only open the mic of the speaker. If they don't answer the question ask them if there was a reason or where in their response was the answer to the question. Cut the time allotted for responses in half. Sounds impossible to get to anything that is effective from the current debates but they can't continue to be conducted as they have been.

One of key traits of a good leader is the ability to boil down complex problems to a short concise explanation that can clearly be acted upon---what, where, when, why, how. Any candidate that is not able to do so is not qualified to be President, IMO.
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