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Old 01-14-2022, 05:35 AM
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Interesting statistics here in Ontario that you are actually more likely to catch Covid if you’re fully vaccinated compared to unvaccinated.


Government website source: https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data


There are many factors that contribute to this statistic and I’m not stating that vaccines don’t help. This is just a example of how data can be selectively choose to benefit an argument. Or maybe I should be ignorant of the confounding factors and state “Clearly based on this data if you have been vaccinated you are at higher risk of catching Covid”

I’m just following the science



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Old 01-14-2022, 09:05 PM
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"Lately Trump has been speaking out in support of vaccination. Better very late than never I guess. This pivot is highly visible. It will be interesting to see if unvaccinated followers will respond in a positive manner and get the shots." -BC

Actually since the time that Trump initiated operation Warp Speed he has pushed getting the vaccine even to the point of Biden and Harris being dismissive about taking the vaccine back in Nov/Dec 2020. I agree. Operation Warp speed was successful in many ways.
This kind of dishonesty or lack of intelligence is why you wouldn't/couldn't read any of the medical studies I had posted on these covid threads.
I carefully read everything you post in hopes I will learn something or find ways we can agree. I read the 4 links you have posted. I can pull them up and we can see if we are in agreement if you would like. I don't know what you are so angry about but one can't enjoy life as intended harboring anger.
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"Lately Trump has been speaking out in support of vaccination. Better very late than never I guess. This pivot is highly visible. It will be interesting to see if unvaccinated followers will respond in a positive manner and get the shots." -BC

Actually since the time that Trump initiated operation Warp Speed he has pushed getting the vaccine even to the point of Biden and Harris being dismissive about taking the vaccine back in Nov/Dec 2020. I agree. Operation Warp speed was successful in many ways.


The above is a perfect example of your dishonesty.

In case you forgot....

You said that Trump has "lately" been supporting vaccination and it was "better late than never" both of those statements are blatantly false and when I pointed that out to you, you replied with...... "I agree. Operation Warp speed was successful in many ways." Yet your comments were that Trump had just now started pushing vaccines.

In simple words for you....

Trump has always pushed Corona vaccines especially since he orchestrated Operation Warp Speed, but has never pushed a mandate for them. The fact that you are a consistent liar is plainly visible to everyone who reads this thread (Mr. Disdainful of "both" political parties) yet who has never made one negative comment about Democrats or Joe Bidens presidency....

Your reading comprehension and honesty are both as fucked up as the DNA of a Hiroshima native.


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Old 01-15-2022, 03:38 PM
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"Lately Trump has been speaking out in support of vaccination. Better very late than never I guess. This pivot is highly visible. It will be interesting to see if unvaccinated followers will respond in a positive manner and get the shots." -BC

Actually since the time that Trump initiated operation Warp Speed he has pushed getting the vaccine even to the point of Biden and Harris being dismissive about taking the vaccine back in Nov/Dec 2020. I agree. Operation Warp speed was successful in many ways.

The above is a perfect example of your dishonesty.

In case you forgot....

You said that Trump has "lately" been supporting vaccination and it was "better late than never" both of those statements are blatantly false and when I pointed that out to you, you replied with...... "I agree. Operation Warp speed was successful in many ways." Yet your comments were that Trump had just now started pushing vaccines.

In simple words for you....

Trump has always pushed Corona vaccines especially since he orchestrated Operation Warp Speed, but has never pushed a mandate for them. The fact that you are a consistent liar is plainly visible to everyone who reads this thread (Mr. Disdainful of "both" political parties) yet who has never made one negative comment about Democrats or Joe Bidens presidency.... [/COLOR]
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The key words were---successful in many ways.
It failed to provide adequate testing, the distribution of the vaccine and the consistency of leadership.

Trump was undermining solutions such as masks, saying that impeachment failed and this was another Democratic attempt to get him, that the seriousness was overblown and it was going away. He promoted false cures and treatments. At rallies he never wore a mask and so his followers didn't either. Folks tend to follow the message of their leaders. A critical component of Operation warp speed was certainly leadership fully supportive of Operation warp speed which he undermined every opportunity to do so. Operation Warp speed should have started much sooner. When it was initiated 100,000 Americans had already died. The operation was success in many ways but feel down miserably after the vaccines were available.



Your reading comprehension and honesty are both as fucked up as the DNA of a Hiroshima native.

This discussion is not about me or you. And nothing we can say decreases another's value. Insults only reflect poorly on the one that stoops to ego based behavior and negatively impact the credibility of their words.
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Interesting statistics here in Ontario that you are actually more likely to catch Covid if you’re fully vaccinated compared to unvaccinated.


Government website source: https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data


There are many factors that contribute to this statistic and I’m not stating that vaccines don’t help. This is just a example of how data can be selectively choose to benefit an argument. Or maybe I should be ignorant of the confounding factors and state “Clearly based on this data if you have been vaccinated you are at higher risk of catching Covid”

I’m just following the science



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As an example of the using anecdotal data from another country to endorse ones position the following are the CDC statistics for the entire US: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...vaccine-status
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The key words were---successful in many ways.

It failed to provide adequate testing, the distribution of the vaccine and the consistency of leadership.



Trump was undermining solutions such as masks, saying that impeachment failed and this was another Democratic attempt to get him, that the seriousness was overblown and it was going away. He promoted false cures and treatments. At rallies he never wore a mask and so his followers didn't either. Folks tend to follow the message of their leaders. A critical component of Operation warp speed was certainly leadership fully supportive of Operation warp speed which he undermined every opportunity to do so. Operation Warp speed should have started much sooner. When it was initiated 100,000 Americans had already died. The operation was success in many ways but feel down miserably after the vaccines were available.






Your reading comprehension and honesty are both as fucked up as the DNA of a Hiroshima native.



This discussion is not about me or you. And nothing we can say decreases another's value. Insults only reflect poorly on the one that stoops to ego based behavior and negatively impact the credibility of their words.
There can be no real discussion if all you do is lie and when caught out you reply with some other statement that has nothing to do with answering about the lie. You are also quite used to dismissing any statement, data, etc that does not fit your perception of the "truth" no matter the source.

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There can be no real discussion if all you do is lie and when caught out you reply with some other statement that has nothing to do with answering about the lie. You are also quite used to dismissing any statement, data, etc that does not fit your perception of the "truth" no matter the source.

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They don't respond.

Was there anything you said that is pertinent or is it all projection?
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