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Old 10-28-2021, 03:34 PM
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I think it’s an absurd argument on both sides. LoL.. “I am not getting vaccinated because I am a Trumper”. “You won’t get vaccinated because you’re a Trumper”. No wonder the USA is falling apart.



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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/wh...-covid-vaccine
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...irus-vaccines/
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...ination-sites/[/COLOR]




Finally a forum member who gets it!

P.S. You have always understood.
I don't know of anything that can change the minds of Trump supporters other than Trump himself. Well maybe not-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLBcZc5JHA based on what happened in the Alabama rally reaction I don't think he will mention go get vaccinated again. Trump has over 70 million supporters. And Trump has not said anything near to---I want every republican to get vaccinated ASAP. It is vital to our country. It is a health crises and we all need to do our part to eradicate this terrible virus. If republicans are not supportive of Trump who do they support?
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:19 PM
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It is a health crises and we all need to do our part to eradicate this terrible virus.
I agree with you, that this covid season needs to pass. It is just personally hard for me to believe either side because of all the conflicting reports, underreporting, and political gas lighting.

I am a Christian, who uses science to “try” and understand my God’s purpose. I would have zero issue with the science, if all of the science, scientists, professionals, etc. on this covid event aligned. But they don’t.

Also, there is other science in general that does not align with the Bible as well (not pertaining to covid). That is where I draw the line. That is my personal belief.

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If republicans are not supportive of Trump who do they support?
I cannot answer that question. I am not affiliated with any political party, in the U.S., or on earth for that matter.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:47 PM
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I agree with you, that this covid season needs to pass. It is just personally hard for me to believe either side because of all the conflicting reports, underreporting, and political gas lighting.

I am a Christian, who uses science to “try” and understand my God’s purpose. I would have zero issue with the science, if all of the science, scientists, professionals, etc. on this covid event aligned. But they don’t.

Also, there is other science in general that does not align with the Bible as well (not pertaining to covid). That is where I draw the line. That is my personal belief.



I cannot answer that question. I am not affiliated with any political party, in the U.S., or on earth for that matter.
I fully understand the importance of religious beliefs. I agree it is extremely difficult to decide what the facts are when you read all the different points of view. I haven't found a voice that is as qualified to be an expert other than the CDC, which has the benefit of worldwide information to evaluate and compare to the US. What I hear otherwise are almost all messages from those seeking personal gain and/or nationwide notoriety and conspiracy theorists.
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I don't know of anything that can change the minds of Trump supporters other than Trump himself. Well maybe not-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLBcZc5JHA Based on what happened in the Alabama rally reaction I don't think he will mention go get vaccinated again. Trump has over 70 million supporters. And Trump has not said anything near to---I want every republican to get vaccinated ASAP. It is vital to our country. It is a health crises and we all need to do our part to eradicate this terrible virus. If republicans are not supportive of Trump who do they support?
"You have your freedoms, but I happen to take the vaccine. But it is working. But you do have your freedoms. "

He's trying so hard to tiptoe around the subject and ease the vaccine point in without offending his constituents' feelings.

The point does get lost when you do not have the conviction to sell a product you believe in.

A product he helped create, no less.

Sure glad Biden didn't have Trump's baggage and can sell the vaccine without holding back.

Any participant coming out of that rally is leaving with a mixed message from his/ her leader. I should take it because Trump took it. But wait, he said it's my freedom NOT to take it. So no, I don't necessarily have to take it.

That's a pretty botched job of vaccine endoresment, it's almost painful to watch.
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"You have your freedoms, but I happen to take the vaccine. But it is working. But you do have your freedoms. "

He's trying so hard to tiptoe around the subject and ease the vaccine point in without offending his constituents' feelings.

The point does get lost when you do not have the conviction to sell a product you believe in.

A product he helped create, no less.

Sure glad Biden didn't have Trump's baggage and can sell the vaccine without holding back.

Any participant coming out of that rally is leaving with a mixed message from his/ her leader. I should take it because Trump took it. But wait, he said it's my freedom NOT to take it. So no, I don't necessarily have to take it.

That's a pretty botched job of vaccine endoresment, it's almost painful to watch.
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