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Old 09-29-2008, 03:12 PM
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You are in total denial. Pelosi announced this weekend that she had a deal in a big photo-op. Democrats control the house which means the Democrats don't need Republicans to pass a House Resolution. Throw in the sixty or so Republican yes votes and the Democrats have even an easier time passing the legislation.

Nice leadership Nancy.

P.S. It was no longer Bush's bill once the House took control of the measure and made significant changes.

I thought the reason why Senator "Kaptin' Save-Em" McCain was in Washington was to rescue the bill from failure? Didn't he tell America the resaon why he participated in Friday's debate was because a deal was near complete? Didn't he return to Washington after the debate in order to win over House Republicans, and on Sunday declared victory in that regard? Didn't he get pissed because no one would give him credit for rescuing the bill?
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:24 PM
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I thought the reason why Senator "Kaptin' Save-Em" McCain was in Washington was to rescue the bill from failure? Didn't he tell America the resaon why he participated in Friday's debate was because a deal was near complete? Didn't he return to Washington after the debate in order to win over House Republicans, and on Sunday declared victory in that regard? Didn't he get pissed because no one would give him credit for rescuing the bill?
Wow...You're in a total partisan fog. Go drink some coffee and spend the next week in detox. If you can blame Pelosi and the Democrats failure on McCain you can justify anything in your head.

I'd say this was your worst moment as it pertains to any rational political discussion.
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You are in total denial. Pelosi announced this weekend that she had a deal in a big photo-op. Democrats control the house which means the Democrats don't need Republicans to pass a House Resolution. Throw in the sixty or so Republican yes votes and the Democrats have even an easier time passing the legislation.

Nice leadership Nancy.

P.S. It was no longer Bush's bill once the House took control of the measure and made significant changes.

This is still Bush's bill... Changes by the Dems include more protections for us taxpayers...

The Reps that are against the bill are in favor of a completely different solution - an insurance type plan in which banks are to bail themselves out... This is a plan that is not Bush's plan...
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:30 PM
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This is still Bush's bill... Changes by the Dems include more protections for us taxpayers...

The Reps that are against the bill are in favor of a completely different solution - an insurance type plan in which banks are to bail themselves out... This is a plan that is not Bush's plan...
Again, Dems just needed 25 more votes to pass...couldn't pull them out of their own party. That explains the LOWEST Congress rating ever.
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:38 PM
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This is still Bush's bill... Changes by the Dems include more protections for us taxpayers...

The Reps that are against the bill are in favor of a completely different solution - an insurance type plan in which banks are to bail themselves out... This is a plan that is not Bush's plan...
Then explain to me why it is named H.R. ##### (House Resolution).

Once the President submits a bill a member or Congress or "Sponsor" brings it before the House. It then takes on a new life as it makes its way through the various House and Senate committees until both versions are blended together. What ends up on the Presidents desk might look nothing like the original bill and with a Democratic House and Senate that is going to be 100% of the time.

It was a House Resolution that failed.

Time to freshen up on your government.
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Ummm, yeah... I thought I read 60% of Democrats voted FOR the bill. It was majority Republicans against. So why can't Pelosi pull her party together? Not that I'm for her or anything, but that statement doesn't make much sense.
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If you're listening to the BS from Dems and Reps all they are doing is pointing at the other to say it failed. Fire them all.

BTW, 90+ Dems didn't vote for the bill. Reps got 30% of the to vote yes, Dems got 60% to vote yes. Dems are the majority, if they all voted yes..that would have been enough.

The bill failed 228 to 205, only 24 votes were needed. Dems couldn't pull it.
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Like others have said, this isn't a Dem versus Rep issue. It's a simple matter of fact, that this Congress cannot get anything done. The end.
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Like others have said, this isn't a Dem versus Rep issue. It's a simple matter of fact, that this Congress cannot get anything done. The end.
Bingo.
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This has nothing to do with partisan politics. I am just tired of people throwing rocks and hiding their hand. Of course MLG will say it was the Dems fault that the bill/resolution failed. It is in his nature.


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