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10-13-2008, 06:05 PM
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10-13-2008, 09:08 PM
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 It would be a long thread for sure  Quote:
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10-13-2008, 05:41 PM
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- Sara Palin for example. She is the worst ticking time bomb this country could ever imagine, worse than if W. Bush cloned himself 10 times and appointed all of his stupider clones to important, key positions within the cabinet. So while McCain would probably be the better pick of Presidents, he is not the better ticket with crazy lady waiting for him to kick the bucket.
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10-13-2008, 06:17 PM
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10-13-2008, 09:22 PM
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Palin has no ability what so ever to lead this country. And while I agree with you that we should be voting for a President and not a vice president, the likelihood of Palin seeing the oval office from the seat of Commander in Chief is far too plausable to ignore it. I hate to play the "WHAT IF" game... But "WHAT IF" she does become President? I'd rather vote for someone whose ideals are different than mine but at least has intelligence and a thought process than someone who should never be working outside of small government... Let alone the White House.
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10-13-2008, 07:34 PM
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10-13-2008, 04:34 PM
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Krimson, you may have touched on this and I just missed it, but how does Obama plan on helping the people who have mortgages that aren't right for them and not in some indirect way help the lenders? Obama thinks that McCains plan will benefit lenders, but his will as well as far as I can see.
Also, lets not forget that it is the Democrats that got us here in the first place. Slick Willy is partially responsible for lowering Fannie Mae's standards to what they are today. Lets really step back and look at the situation; a Democratic President loosens Fannie Mae requirements, more Democrats from the Clinton admin (Franklin Rianes and others) are appointed to run Fannie mae, Republicans warn that Fannie Mae is getting out of control, Franklin Rains gets his pockes fat to the tune of millions of dollars in Fannie Mae bonuses, Barack Obama appears to be one the the highest compensated senators with regard to Fannie Mae funds and you think we should actually let the Democrats and Barack Obama of all people correct the problem? Are you serious? Don't you think the Dems have had control of Fannie Mae and the mortgage industry long enough? It hasn't really worked out that well, has it? Obama proposes going after and assess fines against unscrupulous lenders who deceptively sold subprime mortgages to millions of Americans. That may work to hlep prevent this from happening in the future, but how is assessing fines to "unscrupulous lenders" that may or may not even be in business anymore going to change the situation we are currently in? If we do that the economy and mortgage industry is going to immediately recover because we got he bad guys? Yeah right. More political heart string tugging. "We can't wait to help workers and families and communities who are struggling right now -- who don't know if their job or their retirement will be there tomorrow; who don't know if next week's paycheck will cover this month's bills," Obama said. By fining banks and lenders and creating jobs? That is how Obama thinks he is going to make the situation better in the imediate future for middle class families? I guess he would say that McCain hates new jobs. Who doesn't want to create new jobs?
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10-13-2008, 04:45 PM
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Obama also is proposing letting people withdraw up to 15 percent of their retirement funds, to a maximum of $10,000, without any penalty this year and next. They would still have to pay normal taxes on the money. He said letting people dip into their IRAs and 401(k)s would help them get through tough times when money is tight. The question is whether McCain's plan will work. Last edited by Krimson X; 10-13-2008 at 05:11 PM.
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10-13-2008, 09:31 PM
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So you're voting for Obama because McCain might die
 Good call   Why not vote for someone you actually agree with
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10-13-2008, 09:34 PM
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