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11-06-2008, 03:52 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2008110...edincalifornia Obama did not suffer the much-discussed "Bradley effect" this year, but it appears that gay people were afflicted by some version of it. As of late October, a Field Poll found that the pro-gay side was winning 49% to 44%, with 7% undecided. But gays could not quite make it to 49% on Election Day, meaning a few people may have been unwilling to tell pollsters that they intended to vote against equal marriage rights. 
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#22
11-06-2008, 07:10 PM
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11-06-2008, 11:01 PM
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Most people they were asking why they voted no they simply disregarded the civil rights movement and said the reason was Religion...
While I agree that everyone has an opinion...I am just disgusted when religion comes in play about real life issues....and especially when its affecting people life in this matter and here in the States... I am happy to see that people will fight for this...equal means equal under any circumstance....
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11-06-2008, 11:36 PM
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There are many ways to look at this...I see marriage as everyone else...but when its actually affecting people to this point there needs to be something done...not to mention that other gay and lesbian couples married before this was passed...
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11-07-2008, 12:08 AM
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11-07-2008, 12:21 AM
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 union of church and state should not be happening especially here...I am not saying I condone it...but rather not impose 'my' religious views on people ..id rather look the other way on this and let others be happy for who/what they are...It affects me less that gays and lesbians are allowed to marry...rather than us voting for a ban which affects them greatly if passed just like in this situation... I am sure people remember that girl in Iraq being stoned to death by her own family because of thier religious views on being with someone from a diff. background...that story somehow affected a lot...and I said to myself those people must be crazy...
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11-07-2008, 12:42 AM
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Like I've said, I'm disgusted that so called Californians would vote this way. They should be ashamed of themselves and I hope it haunts them for a long time.
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11-07-2008, 12:45 AM
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I agree 100% on your posts. Religion has NO place in these Government rights PERIOD end of story. YOUR view on the bible can be quite different from another's. That is why we have bodies of government because left to their own devices people can act quite idiotic (see Yes On 8 Campaign) That is why I hope they strike it down.
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11-07-2008, 03:21 PM
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maybe it's just a message that this is a non-starter for most people.
if someone voted for the ban, they are less American or less Californian? Wow, we've been having that whole debate about the Presidential choice, and I've been told that we're all American, so just deal with it. ps - does anyone really believe that everyone that voted for a ban like that did it for purely religious reasons? I seriously doubt that to be the case. There are probably a hundred reasons why people voted for the ban, and they all added up to a ban.
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